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Originally posted by ADP02
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Well, this brings me to my point where Floyd usually fights as he did that night while people expected to see an aggressive Manny with KO written on every punch of his. So the "perception" is that Floyd won the fight because it was a tactical fight. Well like I said that is just perception. Even you posted that you expected Manny to come out like the "terminator".
The truth is that Manny's game plan was to fight a technical fight where he would hit and not get hit with any major shots by Floyd. Overall, Manny did accomplish that. Sure there were some rounds where he could have done more but I will respond to that below (see Floyd used illegal tactics).Ring generalship and defense:
If you analyze closely, Manny's defense was actually quite impressive. More so than Floyd. Floyd 's defense entailed hugging, head-locks, bending below the waist, pushing off and often being at a distance where one can consider it a "stalemate". In my books and I would have hoped, the judges books, it would be considered a negative NOT a positive.
As for Manny, its a hard task to do what he did defensively. That is, being the aggressor and always be prepared defensively to either not get hit, block Floyd's counters or counter with a return punch. This as stated is much more impressive than what critics have called "Floyd's negative fighting".
Finally, we know why you went in this direction. Its because you Floyd fans really can't back up your statements that Floyd won on offense or else, you would have just showed us all your gifs and videos of Floyd doing that to Manny. Only Manny fans have successfully done that!!!
Here are examples:
Manny not only evades but clocks Floyd. Very impressive!
Floyd here is in fighting range. That is, not at a "stalemate" distance. His defense failed him here. Manny got him with an effective punch that clearly stunned Floyd.
I can show you plenty of examples where Floyd used illegal tactics and Bayless lets Floyd do whatever Floyd wanted but is this really defense and/or ring generalship and/or Effective Aggression?
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The truth is that Manny's game plan was to fight a technical fight where he would hit and not get hit with any major shots by Floyd. Overall, Manny did accomplish that. Sure there were some rounds where he could have done more but I will respond to that below (see Floyd used illegal tactics).Ring generalship and defense:
If you analyze closely, Manny's defense was actually quite impressive. More so than Floyd. Floyd 's defense entailed hugging, head-locks, bending below the waist, pushing off and often being at a distance where one can consider it a "stalemate". In my books and I would have hoped, the judges books, it would be considered a negative NOT a positive.
As for Manny, its a hard task to do what he did defensively. That is, being the aggressor and always be prepared defensively to either not get hit, block Floyd's counters or counter with a return punch. This as stated is much more impressive than what critics have called "Floyd's negative fighting".
Finally, we know why you went in this direction. Its because you Floyd fans really can't back up your statements that Floyd won on offense or else, you would have just showed us all your gifs and videos of Floyd doing that to Manny. Only Manny fans have successfully done that!!!
Here are examples:
Manny not only evades but clocks Floyd. Very impressive!
Floyd here is in fighting range. That is, not at a "stalemate" distance. His defense failed him here. Manny got him with an effective punch that clearly stunned Floyd.
I can show you plenty of examples where Floyd used illegal tactics and Bayless lets Floyd do whatever Floyd wanted but is this really defense and/or ring generalship and/or Effective Aggression?
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And they had this plan because it suits your agenda to do the ol flip flop , now the terminator is out boxing Floyd , FCK OFF WITH YOUR BS , Manny could not do anything without paying for it and was shut down just like ever other fighter that trys to out box Floyd , they are all totally shut down to their lowest career output , same thing happened to Manny .
Floyd wins a lot of his close fights because of his Ring Generalship , Defence , Effective Aggression , Fight Control , its all a part of scoring but you would sooner call it paid of judges , in reality a simpletons way out from admitting they are wrong that there is a lot more to scoring a boxing match that only punch stats .
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