North vs South: John Murray vs Kevin Mitchell Official Thread

[FloydTBE]

murray gt no defense

[VERILY]

Ain't you a Manc as well big man? I thought you'd be rooting for the local boy..

I kept an eye Murray's progress for years, but just never saw much coming out of him to get that excited about. Were I a bigger fan of the style, it wouldn't matter as much that his potential is so limited, except I'm not - or more exactly, I'm not a big fan of his version of the style as it's developed. Jokes aside, I won't resent him the win if he gets it, because he works hard, but he just doesn't excite me.



Mitchell, I've been a fan of and still am, but he's in a limbo between British/Euro level and world-class and I'm beginning to think his mental game will keep him stuck at Def Con 5 as far as his readiness to do battle with any of the best 10 fighters at the weight is concerned (excepting Murray, who's Ring rating is nonsense).

Kevin always seemed like a mentally tough cookie to me, so he's appeared more fallible over the last 18 months than I originally perceived him to be in that regard. I sympathise with him to a degree, but a lot of guys have to prepare and perform in this sport with all manner of pressure upon them, so I can't give him too much of a pass.

[Fish_Scotland]

I kept an eye Murray's progress for years, but just never saw much coming out of him to get that excited about. Were I a bigger fan of the style, it wouldn't matter as much that his potential is so limited, except I'm not - or more exactly, I'm not a big fan of his version of the style as it's developed. Jokes aside, I won't resent him the win if he gets it, because he works hard, but he just doesn't excite me.



Mitchell, I've been a fan of and still am, but he's in a limbo between British/Euro level and world-class and I'm beginning to think his mental game will keep him stuck at Def Con 5 as far as his readiness to do battle with any of the best 10 fighters at the weight is concerned (excepting Murray, who's Ring rating is nonsense).

Kevin always seemed like a mentally tough cookie to me, so he's appeared more fallible over the last 18 months than I originally perceived him to be in that regard. I sympathise with him to a degree, but a lot of guys have to prepare and perform in this sport with all manner of pressure upon them, so I can't give him too much of a pass.

Thats pretty much how I see it too. I've never seen anything in Murray other than walk forward, take a couple to give a couple, outlast your opponent style fighters. We all know what happens to them at world level. Who did he fight in his last fight? The 'heres johnny' posters were he fought in London? Anyway he was fecking reeking in that fight and that was were he was meant to announce himself on the scene. I just don't see it.

As for Mitchell, his problems are all outside of the ring. If he could/would take himself away from all his issues and dedicate himself to the sport then he could well still go a long way. However we've yet to see since his lose to Katsidis so loses can change fighters. I like Mitchell though and always have.

I may be more North than anyone on this forum but I'll be rooting for the little fellow from the Dagenham for sure. (even though being a Scot I naturally don't have much empathy for the S/E of England lol)

[VERILY]

Thats pretty much how I see it too. I've never seen anything in Murray other than walk forward, take a couple to give a couple, outlast your opponent style fighters. We all know what happens to them at world level. Who did he fight in his last fight? The 'heres johnny' posters were he fought in London? Anyway he was fecking reeking in that fight and that was were he was meant to announce himself on the scene. I just don't see it.

Exactly, man.

I mean, if he at least practiced a more intelligent version of the style, but was limited by any combination of variables, I'd be more intrigued by Murray.


If both guys are prepared, I don't see Murray having any advantage in the matchup except natural size, and Kevin has more than enough ability to overcome that. I think he hits harder, too.

[Money_May]

I got murray over mitchell anyone want a bet for 5M?

[FloydTBE]

mitchell at 5/4 is the solid value bet

[Uturn]

I got murray over mitchell anyone want a bet for 5M?

I'll take that bet.

[dumber79]

murray is having this excuse making, gren growing southern fat chopped fairy for t.


watch this space you southern fairies.

[Fish_Scotland]

Hope Mitchell gets ****** out, tired of his excuses.

Hope Murray gets ****** out, tired of his mediocrity getting good airtime.

Both valid points, I'm rooting for Mitchell though in the hope he gets through this one and sort his ****ing **** out. I'm going to watch an on form Mitchell over an on form Murray any day of the week. Mitchell still has time to get it right if he gets through this.

[Sparked_1985]

Mitchell in any form beats Murray, imo.

He's better.

He should never have lost to Katsidis either. The bloke needs a kick up the arse.