Hatton Vs Junior Witter

[Diricul]

Maybe that can be said but Roy Jones jr is a multi millionaire and Witter isnt, a good business man makes money before he's too old and its not certain if Witter will do that.

If you think Witter is a better fighter than Hatton then you must think Hattons the better business man because he's earnt a lot more money even though in your opinion he's not as good.

I said that Witter thinks not like a warrior but like a business man to express my little upset. And the same thing I can say about Jones. IMO Jones is a best boxer but the fact that we lost some great fights (like Eubank vs Jones) is his guilty.

Of course Hatton is a better business man, because there is the only one thing in business that can determinate its quality – it’s a result. May be something will change in the future but today Hatton is definitely better.

[Diricul]

I think Ben Tackie is a underated fighter, i didnt see Tszyu trying to mix it with him. Anyone who can make a huge puncher like Tszyu fight a cautious fight must be a tough guy.

I have no doubt Tackie would beat Ndou, i think the way they fight is like one another but Tackie is stronger and can punch a lot harder.

I already said that I also think Tackie’s tough but I don’t think Tackie would beat N’Dou. They have almost the same percents of knockouts (Tackie has 16 KOs in 26 wins, N’Dou has 25 in 39) and losses (Tackie has 5, N’Dou has 8). Tackie has better plasticity, N’Dou has more strenght. N’Dou gave the problems to each top fighter he met, Tackie lost each round. N’Dou has more experience. N’Dou is older but its only Tackie who’s over the hill.

About Ben vs Tszyu. It’s rather interesting fight. But Kostya never wanted to KD him. I hope you’ll get a possibility to watch this fight and without a doubt you will agree. It’s very clear if to compare it with the fight Tszyu vs Urkal in which Urkal could even win but didn’t do enough. In the Tackie fight all was different. Tszyu wanted to show his skills and he said it in the post-fight interviews. It weren’t excuses ‘cause Tszyu never said it before but won 5 fights by UD. It was like a cat with a mouse and this cat wasn’t hungry.

It’s sad that Oktay Urkal left the division. Because if Hatton will lose to Tszyu, he would be the best choice for Ricky. The other great opponent that will make Ricky to show his whole potential in the ring is Fransisco “Punchito” Bojado who is extremely talented but lazy. I didn’t see Magee but sure Punchito at least has the same talent. He’s young but already had very strong opposition. Bojado’s rival Juan Carlos Rubio who isn’t talented and low powered by but has a lion heart, fantastic workrate and exellent tactics skill would be another good opponent. Of course Mohammad Abdullaev would be great also. May be Branco and Hurtado. Sharmba and Leija left division. But Hatton never met even N’Dou (I don’t say about Magee).
I hope he will meet high level opponents after Tszyu. If not we will not know his true potential for a long time because this division isn’t just full of stars but just like other divisions also full of overrated dumb ones and bums. And Corley is a bright example. He is in the top ten but his experience and durability are his only aces.

[Diricul]

Who against??

Judah, Battaglia and highlights of the N’Dou fight.

If you think Hattons opponents are terrible your very wrong, his opponents not great fighters but he's always been in with guys who can fight and have good chins.

Almost all of them could stand the whole bout vs Corley. Some could win... Yes, it would be fights of “world class” boxers but if to be honest the majority of them would be a parade of clowns.

Magee IMO could have been a genuine world class fighter, i think he'd have been top 10 if the wasnt so lazy. He's another fighter Witter backed out agaisnt. Even after the savage street beating he took which nearly ruined his career i'd pick him to beat Witter.

As I said I didn’t see him yet. It’s sad. May be it’s an exception from the Richard’s opponents’ list.

I think i've watched about 50% of Witters career and every opponent i've seen him in against(except Judah & Ndou) came into the fight with no will to win, not only that they had no skill, no chin and majority shouldnt have been allowed to fight.

I agree. But I would say the same words about Richard’s guests Except Philips (and Magee?).

[Diricul]

Krivolapov was ranked WBC #3 when Ricky fought him.

It’s curious because after his loss to Urkal he won vs the opponents with the following records: 0-0-0, 0-1-0, 0-2-1, 17-7-0 (one of two his greatest wins, WBC International Light Welterweight Title), 0-6-0, 0-0-0 and 4-15-0.
But fact is fact: I was wrong.

I wouldn't worry too much because it seems Witter has finally stopped ****ing on about Ricky Hatton, and gone off to get his own success.

I Agree, but it’s simply not beautiful and don’t add the respect to him.

I don't understand this though Coz' the fight with Lovemore Ndou was a WBC mandatory eliminator?

No, it wasn’t. It could become it, but WBC declined it. Witter is the WBC #3 and has EBU Light Welterweight belt. Kotelnik is his mandatory.

Maybe Junior Witter does still have a little bit of a bad feeling towards Ricky Hatton... I think it's financial jealousy though, and nothing more.

Exactly The more he's busy the less time to jealousy he has

[rudy]

No way would Collins have beaten Jones he beat a washed up Eubank and Benn . Benn was never the same after the McCellen fight that is a fact. He lost to Mike McCallum clearly and to Reggie Johnson.

He even back out of fight Jo Calzaghe becuase he knew he would lose he got busted up in the gym by Howard Eastman and called it quits

[J !]

yip agreed Rudy. Ben was never the same and collins was overated as he got Benn and eubank at the right time.

either in their prime would have made short work of collins let alone Jones.

[Dr O Strich]

I am confident that we will get to see Hatton VS Witter.

Hatton will lose to Kostya Tszyu, after which Mr. Warren will undoubtably be happy to rake in the cash by making this huge domestic showdown.

Depending on how badly Hatton is beaten - and if, as I suspect he will be, he is seriously exposed at true world level then the Witter match up will be one of the few big money fights out there for Hatton.


We are now at a point in boxing where many British "World" champions are little more than good domestic fighters with a plastic bauble hanging around their waist.

Just for the record, I also believe that Witter has the style to beat Hatton.

As good a fighter and as likeable a fellow as Hatton is (and I have met the man) I have to say his record does not so far suggest he is as good as he is made out to be.

I hope I am wrong, but I forsee a Hatton loss to Tszyu followed by a "comeback" fight after which you may well see Mr. Warren back peddling and selling us the fight he will claim he has been trying to make all along - the long awaited match up with Witter.

[Diricul]

mate id give up to state that witter has fought better opponents than hatton so vociferously when clearly hatton has fougth better oppoenents outside Judah is clear enough a sign that the bloke loves Witter.

You should use your plebeian style of talking to talk with your friends not me.

Fact is Hatotn destroyed Tackie the fight after he took on zoo, destroyed phillips two fights afte rhe took on zoo, so they all of sudden were too old but a fight before were good enough to challenge the best at the weight.

Tackie wasn’t much worse against Hatton than he was against Tszyu. The difference is Hatton wasn’t be able to KO him and Tszyu hadn’t any will to KO him and played with him like a cat with a mouse. Ben didn’t take no one round against Kostya, Ricky, Sharmba.
You said Richard destroyed Vince two fights after he took on zoo???
Vince destroyed Tszyu in the Ring magazine’s Upset Of The Year 1997... Vince fought Richard in the year 2003...
You need know more about boxing history...

Witter fought Judah **** himslef and got on his bike, if it wasnt the knockdowns against Ndou he would have lost.

Witter did what he wanted to do. Judah wasn’t be able to land no one solid punch.
If it wasnt the knockdowns against N’dou it would be another fighter in the ring with N’Dou that night.

I mean come on his necxt oppoenets biggest feat is losing and SD to soul mbaye.
Whiel hatotn is going in with Zoo.

Did I said Kotelnik is a very strong boxer?
By the way this soul lost by UD to Harris who is one of the biggest punchers in the division. Vivian’s punch is stronger than Richard’s one. That means that Soul is a tough man. And Kotelnik lost him by SD that means they are at the close level and was this SD fair is a question.

Of course Hatton will meet Tszyu. After that Witter’s opposition and Richard’s one will be equal.

[J !]

I THINK YOU MAY WISH TO RETRACT SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS MY FRIEND.

i need to know more about boxing history really........


im not going to attack you but you really should read some of my posts beofre saying **** like that and embarassisng yourself.

If you do a search i think you will find i know my stuff. But heres one example for you.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6671

do let me know when you would like to come and discuss some HISTORY with me. I may be witnessing some this weekend.

i wouldnt be employed as a journalist otherwise woudl i if knew **** all mate and go the length and breadth of england to cover fights?

http://www.britishboxing.net/?page=news&id=669

but of course i bow to your superior knowledge oh great one
do come again, thank you and goodnight.

im off to manchester.

ill expect an apology on my return.

[Diricul]

I THINK YOU MAY WISH TO RETRACT SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS MY FRIEND.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6671

Hm... English isn’t a language that I know perfectly yet... I decided that the word «mate» has an offence against me. I found in a dictionary that one meaning of this word is a «female»... Now I read your link and there you address this word to your interlocutor. So now I understood this word means something like comrade. I was wrong. I’m sorry.

do let me know when you would like to come and discuss some HISTORY with me. I may be witnessing some this weekend.

We’ll discuss it for sure.

but of course i bow to your superior knowledge oh great one

I feel it’s a sarcasm but I don’t understand its vector... You said the wrong date of Tszyu vs Philips fight and I corrected you. You should agree it’s your mistake.

do come again, thank you and goodnight.

It’s evening here. But anyhow thank you. Goodnight.