Hatton Vs Junior Witter

[elveiel]

I saw it the other way and think he showed enough confidence and freedom of moves.

Watch the corner working on Witter during the Ndou fight, you can tell from their reaction he wasnt with it fully. He had enough confidence to get the job done and i think he'll improve a lot when he starts taking more tough fights.

One of the things that put me off Witter was the Pinto fight, he backed out because of Pinto's reputation.

[welshwales]

Id say Witter would KO Hatton in 5, he has too much power.

[elveiel]

Id say Witter would KO Hatton in 5, he has too much power.

I dont know how you can compare Hatton and Witter power at the moment, Witters looks quite impressive but when you consider the type of fighter he's been KOing and then look at the fighter Hattons been KOing it looks a lot less impressive. Hatton's KO'd a lot of fighters who have never been stopped whilst Witters been KOing fighters with no chin.

When Witter steps up the level of opponent we'll see how hard he can punch in comparison.

[Diricul]

Watch the corner working on Witter during the Ndou fight, you can tell from their reaction he wasnt with it fully. He had enough confidence to get the job done and i think he'll improve a lot when he starts taking more tough fights.

One of the things that put me off Witter was the Pinto fight, he backed out because of Pinto's reputation.

I think it’s rather understandable. Trainer should never be satisfied. In that bout Witter broke the hand – it’s an important factor also. Cotto looked worse in the N’dou fight. And don’t forget that a W is a W, as said Corrales. For example Judah wasn’t impressed by Tszyu’s perfomance versus Urkal and he was right. Just like N’dou Urkal is not a champ also, not an elite. But he is always busy and lionhearted. I’m sure he won the 1st fight vs Harris and he stepped in the ring for the 2nd fight with the broken nose. Urkal can help each one to be looked poor. N’dou isn’t Urkal but if Lovemore’s opponent wants to outclass him he must have the great skills.

And what reputation Pinto has? I know nothing about it…
Do you know exactly that Pinto’s reputation was the main cause of Witter’s decision to back it out?

I’ve heard that Witter and Hamed have the same trainer. Is it true?

[Diricul]

I don’t see a lot of difference between the opposition of Hatton and Witter. Hatton never met opponents like N’Dou. A year ago N’Dou asked Hatton to give him a fight. And Hatton (may be Warren) backed it.
I saw the real skill in the 2 last bouts of Ricky. His opponents (Stewart and Oliveira) was still poor. Don’t look at the records because they showed nothing, I say more they didn’t even try to show something. But Hatton showed the next level of skill.

[elveiel]

I think it’s rather understandable. Trainer should never be satisfied. In that bout Witter broke the hand – it’s an important factor also. Cotto looked worse in the N’dou fight. And don’t forget that a W is a W, as said Corrales. For example Judah wasn’t impressed by Tszyu’s perfomance versus Urkal and he was right. Just like N’dou Urkal is not a champ also, not an elite. But he is always busy and lionhearted. I’m sure he won the 1st fight vs Harris and he stepped in the ring for the 2nd fight with the broken nose. Urkal can help each one to be looked poor. N’dou isn’t Urkal but if Lovemore’s opponent wants to outclass him he must have the great skills.

And what reputation Pinto has? I know nothing about it…
Do you know exactly that Pinto’s reputation was the main cause of Witter’s decision to back it out?

I’ve heard that Witter and Hamed have the same trainer. Is it true?

Witters camp got a tape of Pinto before the fight, they said it was nothing but brutal KO's and a couple of days later Witter got an injury that forced him out of the fight

Witters current coach was Hameds coach(Brendan Ingle), Hamed was with Ingle through the majority of his career.

How much of Witter career have you seen?? The difference between opponents is huge, Ndou was the 1st time Witter had fought someone within the world top 40-50 since Judah. His opponents have been terrible and Hattons have been very tough, not elite but very tough and durable.

Hatton would hand Nodu a beating, he's no way near as good as Hatton, they were going to fight him as a warm up but from my understanding the Vivian Harris fight came up and they switched their attention to him. Hattons fought better guys than Ndou, IMO Magee(who Witter wouldnt fight), Phillips, Tackie and Olivera are all superior fighters, even guys like Krivolapov(who Witter wouldnt fight), Rios and Stewart are at the same skill level. Ndou's just overated because he caused Cotto a few problems.

[Diricul]

May be Witter will defend his european belt vs Kotelnik. It’s not bad for him because Kotelnik is a number 5 of WBA.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Yeah I remember when Witter pulled out of the Kelson Pinto fight!

I remember him saying at the time, "It's not fair! How come Ricky Hatton gets easy fights and the only way I get recognition is to fight a young unbeaten KO artist like Pinto!"

I think Witter has spent most of his career feeding off of Hatton's.

Witter needs to forget about Ricky Hatton, and concentrate on his own career... (granted, he is now doing that!) WBC Mandatory challenger.

I agree with you elveiel though... Witter backing out of the Pinto fight did put me off Witter a lot too. Guys like Ricky Hatton are willing to fight anyone, they're not scared and they're not thinking "This isn't fair!" - They will fight anyone because they truely believe in themselves that they can beat ANY light-welterweight in the World right now.

[Diricul]

Witters camp got a tape of Pinto before the fight, they said it was nothing but brutal KO's and a couple of days later Witter got an injury that forced him out of the fight .

I didn’t expect it...
It’s not beautiful... May be it’s time to say that Hatton never met qualifyied opponents also and it’s easy to say that promoter didn’t let him to fight Harris, but we’re about Witter now...
I don’t think it indicates that he’s a coward (it will be clear in the future). But at least it indicates that he thinks not like a warrior but like a businessman. And the same thing can be said about Roy Jones.

How much of Witter career have you seen??

I've seen three fights.

The difference between opponents is huge, Ndou was the 1st time Witter had fought someone within the world top 40-50 since Judah. His opponents have been terrible and Hattons have been very tough, not elite but very tough and durable.

Richard had never fought guys ranked as high as Judah and N’Dou.

[Diricul]

His opponents have been terrible.

You know I can tell the same thing about Hatton’s opponents. Stewart did his worst fight with him not because he lost, not because he didn’t complete what he was trying to do. But because he even DIDN’T TRY to do something. And Stewart’s record isn’t natural. He was beating novices his whole career. He lost to Sharmba by points. And the cause of this is in Mitchell’s bad perfomance and in Stewart's will that he showed in that fight. There wasn’t any will in the fight vs Hatton.
Oliveira's 3000 punches within 1 fight are in the 2001 and now it’s a respective veteran who lost all his skills and has only an average shape. And only this average shape let him to stand so many rounds against Ricky because he didn’t try to do nothing also.
It were 2 Hatton’s best matches. And I think he grew up a lot and was very good. But they are his best matches not because there were interesting opposition of two boxers in them, they were his best because he showed the best perfomance in comparision with his other fights.
I didn’t see the fight with Magee.
Krivolapov is a fighter I’ve seen many times but didn’t see his fight vs Richard and can’t tell how good he was at that time. I respect Mikhail. He’s a tough fighter with an usually decent shape and sometimes he can punch. But he’s very limited.
When Vince beated Tszyu he was only drug-addict. When he fought Hatton he became an alcoholic also We should add his age and it will the true portrait of this amazing fighter. But he didn’t lost all his skills and his heart stroked by stimulators isn’t just lion, it’s the heart of a tyranozaurus. He gave Hatton good fight as he would give it to each other in this division. It was the hardest Ricky’s bout I think. May be except Magee. The other opponents like Vilches were in the ring as long as their chins and guts let them. Punching bags with different durability.

Hatton would hand Nodu a beating, he's no way near as good as Hatton, they were going to fight him as a warm up but from my understanding the Vivian Harris fight came up and they switched their attention to him.

IMO it would be a clean UD with a tough resistance.

Hattons fought better guys than Ndou.

It’s a question.

IMO Magee(who Witter wouldnt fight), Phillips, Tackie and Olivera are all superior fighters, even guys like Krivolapov(who Witter wouldnt fight), Rios and Stewart are at the same skill level. Ndou's just overated because he caused Cotto a few problems.

Tackie is extremely dumb but tought. His only meaningful win was over Oliveira. And if to be honest took no one round in the 3 most important fights of his career. N’Dou’s losses are all rather close.