Frank Warren is an absolute ****ing gimp

[Flagellum Dei]

And Joe has already out-classed Starie and Sheika, who out-classed Woods and Johnson respectively.

Yea, but things don't work like that! For example, Foreman destroyed Frasier, however Frasier beat Ali, then Ali beat Foreman! Just because Frasier beat Ali, (who beat Foreman), didn't mean he would also beat Foreman! Does that make sense!

[col Blake]

I thought this was a thread about Wank Warren not crap Welsh fighters and there has been a few.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Yea, but things don't work like that! For example, Foreman destroyed Frasier, however Frasier beat Ali, then Ali beat Foreman! Just because Frasier beat Ali, (who beat Foreman), didn't mean he would also beat Foreman! Does that make sense!

I know. I was just saying.

[Shanus]

A blind man wouldn't even pick Johnson and Woods over Calzaghe.

They proved in their last fight that they're only regarded as champion material because the division is extremely weak and at its worst.

[Flagellum Dei]

A blind man wouldn't even pick Johnson and Woods over Calzaghe.

They proved in their last fight that they're only regarded as champion material because the division is extremely weak and at its worst.

Yea, you're right, the division is weak which is why Calzaghe is champion

[Shanus]

Yea, you're right, the division is weak which is why Calzaghe is champion

Funnily enough they fight at two different weight divisions.

[Flagellum Dei]

Funnily enough they fight at two different weight divisions.

Well, didn't Clazaghe start at SMW, again quite weak at the time, which you readily admit! Hey, all credit to you, if you really believe Calzaghe is great, I just can't help thinking you've been duped into believing the hype - just like the Hamed and Harrison (Audley) fans of recent times!

[Shanus]

Well, didn't Clazaghe start at SMW, again quite weak at the time, which you readily admit! Hey, all credit to you, if you really believe Calzaghe is great, I just can't help thinking you've been duped into believing the hype - just like the Hamed and Harrison (Audley) fans of recent times!

The only people hyping Calzaghe are the Americans, and he will fill the boots they've given him.

What are you talking about? He didn't just start a SMW, he's still at SMW.

And he's never fought at LHW either, I don't know where you've heard that from.

For somebody who's trying to put up an argument, you certainly haven't done your research.

[Flagellum Dei]

The only people hyping Calzaghe are the Americans, and he will fill the boots they've given him.

What are you talking about? He didn't just start a SMW, he's still at SMW.

And he's never fought at LHW either, I don't know where you've heard that from.

For somebody who's trying to put up an argument, you certainly haven't done your research.

LOL! I'm the only person to offer a cogent argument, and have answered all your arguments with counter arguments, where as you have only pro-offered personal attacks - and have not offered any real counter arguments! Wasn't there talk of Calzaghe moving upto LHW? That is what I mean't, I didn't think that I would have to explain that though, you being a Calzaghe sycophant !

Finally, and this is the last thing i'll say on the issue, talking of blind men even Stevie Wonder could see the Calzaghe is a fraud, I know Wales don't ascend to many sporting achievements and believe me I used to live in Cardiff - but even Owain Glyndwr would tell you that Calzaghe's a fraud

[Shanus]

LOL! I'm the only person to offer a cogent argument, and have answered all your arguments with counter arguments, where as you have only pro-offered personal attacks - and have not offered any real counter arguments! Wasn't there talk of Calzaghe moving upto LHW? That is what I mean't, I didn't think that I would have to explain that though, you being a Calzaghe sycophant !

Finally, and this is the last thing i'll say on the issue, talking of blind men even Stevie Wonder could see the Calzaghe is a fraud, I know Wales don't ascend to many sporting achievements and believe me I used to live in Cardiff - but even Owain Glyndwr would tell you that Calzaghe's a fraud

Alright, you've said your bit.. I wasn't looking for an argument, I just didn't agree with things you said, and was slightly bewildered too.

Let's just agree to disagree.