Marciano vs Frazier: Who had the better chin?

[King Koyle]

So I guess you think Marciano would beat Foreman, huh?

What's your problem with Marciano,butterfly?You seem to take this **** personal.Just wondering if you can clear it up.

[butterfly1964]

What's your problem with Marciano,butterfly?You seem to take this **** personal.Just wondering if you can clear it up.

I just think that many people here overrate him, that's all. I have nothing against him personally.

[CoLd_WaVE]

Marciano....

[Rick Taylor]

frazier had a weak chin

[cfang]

Frazier. Rocky was dropped by moore and walcott. He never faced the guys frazier did.

[Rick Taylor]

Frazier. Rocky was dropped by moore and walcott. He never faced the guys frazier did.

frazier had the weaker chin of the two.

the moore that fought marciano would have massacred frazier

[Dr. Z]

I always thought their chins were somewhat confusing. I think they had more heart than granite up there

Who do you pick?

Rocky,

Frazier was down more often and stunned by lesser punchers. ( Bruce, Bugner, Stander )

Bonavena nearly Ko'd Fraizer by Joe's owns words in their first fight, and while Oscar could hit and would probably
qualify as the second best puncher Frazier fought, he's not exactly what I think of when talking about punchers.

Foreman was puncher, and he Frazer down multiple times .

Had Frazier fought Liston, Norton, Lyle, Shavers or even Martin, we'd have a better idea about his chin. His management instead set hm up with guys his size or smaller who could not hit as hard as Frazier did.


By contrast Rocky was down far less ( Only twice ) and there were more flaws variety. Walcott could catch you off balance in a counter. Indeed he floored Louis three times. Moore had a pretty good right hand, and Rocky was up quickly.

[QueensburyRules]

Rocky,

Frazier was down more often and stunned by lesser punchers. ( Bruce, Bugner, Stander )

Bonavena nearly Ko'd Fraizer by Joe's owns words in their first fight, and while Oscar could hit and would probably
qualify as the second best puncher Frazier fought, he's not exactly what I think of when talking about punchers.

Foreman was puncher, and he Frazer down multiple times .

Had Frazier fought Liston, Norton, Lyle, Shavers or even Martin, we'd have a better idea about his chin. His management instead set hm up with guys his size or smaller who could not hit as hard as Frazier did.


By contrast Rocky was down far less ( Only twice ) and there were more flaws variety. Walcott could catch you off balance in a counter. Indeed he floored Louis three times. Moore had a pretty good right hand, and Rocky was up quickly.

- -Liston a nonentity post Ali, Norton a friend and training partner, Lyle and Shaver long after Joe retired.

Oscar would've been the most formidable for Rocky faced coming up until Louis.

Kinda dumb unprovable question.

[Dr. Z]

- -Liston a nonentity post Ali, Norton a friend and training partner, Lyle and Shaver long after Joe retired.

Oscar would've been the most formidable for Rocky faced coming up until Louis.

Kinda dumb unprovable question.

Frazier's own people admit they wanted nothing to do with Liston, post Ali 1 ( 1971 ). Indeed Frazier opted out of the red hot WBA tournament, which had some punishers in favor of fighting for the NY State heavyweight title.

Sorry, Frazier retired in 1976, there was plenty of time for Norton, Lyle or Shavers.

There really was no need to fight Ellis or Quarry a 2nd time in 1974 and 1975, other than these were low risk fights for Frazier. Why not Norton, Lyle, or Shavers here?

More to add. Frazier was also stung by Ramons who hardly landed and had to come back to beat an over weight Buster Mathis.

[QueensburyRules]

Frazier's own people admit they wanted nothing to do with Liston, post Ali 1 ( 1971 ). Indeed Frazier opted out of the red hot WBA tournament, which had some punishers in favor of fighting for the NY State heavyweight title.

Sorry, Frazier retired in 1976, there was plenty of time for Norton, Lyle or Shavers.

There really was no need to fight Ellis or Quarry a 2nd time in 1974 and 1975, other than these were low risk fights for Frazier. Why not Norton, Lyle, or Shavers here?

More to add. Frazier was also stung by Ramons who hardly landed and had to come back to beat an over weight Buster Mathis.

- -Musta been in diapers filled with strained pea and carrots baby food then.

Liston weren't fighting any contenders then until his end because he was the Kiss of Death after being accused of QUITTING the Ali fights.

When did you move to chunky?