Prime George Foreman vs Prime Joe Louis

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Louis is the 1st or 2nd greatest heavyweight of all-time

But, I just don't see how the 190lb Louis keeps the 230lb Foreman off of him for 12-15 rounds.

Foreman would I think bully the much, much smaller Louis until he could hit him with one of his paralyzing shots.

I actually like his cross-armed defense as a wall against Louis' aggression, too.

that doesn't mean Foreman's greater, but matching up physically is to the young George would be hard.

Now, the old George I think would be too slow and get countered to death by Louis, but Bully George batters Louis, I htink

Louis' prime weight was around 205. Foreman I believe about 215, 220. So the discrepancy isn't as far as you originally thought.

That said, I can see winning scenarios for both men. Joe was dropped by a few guys that aren't even in George's league when it comes to power. On the other hand, George is slow and has never fought anyone with the pinpoint accuracy and power of Joe. To me its a coin toss. Tomorrow I may think one definitively over the other.

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Louis is the 1st or 2nd greatest heavyweight of all-time

But, I just don't see how the 190lb Louis keeps the 230lb Foreman off of him for 12-15 rounds.

Foreman would I think bully the much, much smaller Louis until he could hit him with one of his paralyzing shots.

I actually like his cross-armed defense as a wall against Louis' aggression, too.

that doesn't mean Foreman's greater, but matching up physically is to the young George would be hard.

Now, the old George I think would be too slow and get countered to death by Louis, but Bully George batters Louis, I htink

Where did you get joe was the best from he fought people who never would make hw in 70s-90s and george would destroy him both versions

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Louis' prime weight was around 205. Foreman I believe about 215, 220. So the discrepancy isn't as far as you originally thought.

That said, I can see winning scenarios for both men. Joe was dropped by a few guys that aren't even in George's league when it comes to power. On the other hand, George is slow and has never fought anyone with the pinpoint accuracy and power of Joe. To me its a coin toss. Tomorrow I may think one definitively over the other.

Never fought anybody forgot about ali huh who was way more skilled then joe and hw fought ron who was more skilled to then joe and hit harder then anybody joe fought easy win for george crazy idiot

[JAB5239]

Never fought anybody forgot about ali huh who was way more skilled then joe and hw fought ron who was more skilled to then joe and hit harder then anybody joe fought easy win for george crazy idiot

You have no knowledge of boxing nor its history. You won't even post your top 10 list. Your opinion means absolutely zilch to 99.9% of the posters in this section. That my friend is a fact.

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You have no knowledge of boxing nor its history. You won't even post your top 10 list. Your opinion means absolutely zilch to 99.9% of the posters in this section. That my friend is a fact.

well your right my opinion doesnt mean anything but since my stuff is on video means im 100% right where you got i have no knowledge is odd so that means George never fought ali and ron cause they those fights happened and they are more skilled then people joe fought and hit way harder

[JAB5239]

well your right my opinion doesnt mean anything but since my stuff is on video means im 100% right where you got i have no knowledge is odd so that means George never fought ali and ron cause they those fights happened and they are more skilled then people joe fought and hit way harder

Nobody was more skilled than Louis, and film supports that as well as historians, trainers and fighters past and present. You're just to dense to realize it. That and you're to much if a coward to post your top 10 list. It's literally been like five months. That you cant come up with the list you said you would provide tells us all we need to know of your character.

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Nobody was more skilled than Louis, and film supports that as well as historians, trainers and fighters past and present. You're just to dense to realize it. That and you're to much if a coward to post your top 10 list. It's literally been like five months. That you cant come up with the list you said you would provide tells us all we need to know of your character.

Of course he was most skilled another quote/lie facing trash that never would give trouble to 70s-90s being dropped by galento bullied by max and looked bad agiasnt both of course

he was the most skilled yet george Frazier ali Ron and others in his time never would never be dropped by them or struggle like joe did...... of course that means joe was more skilled

I cant find any match where anybody big name in 70s who fought like they did in Joe's time why is that

[JAB5239]

Of course he was most skilled another quote/lie facing trash that never would give trouble to 70s-90s being dropped by galento bullied by max and looked bad agiasnt both of course

he was the most skilled yet george Frazier ali Ron and others in his time never would never be dropped by them or struggle like joe did...... of course that means joe was more skilled

I cant find any match where anybody big name in 70s who fought like they did in Joe's time why is that

Ali was dropped by Cooper. George was beat by Young. Frazier had a draw with Ron Stander. Lyle was knocked out by Lynn Ball.

Point is, all fighters have struggled at one point or another with fighters not on their level. It's how you respond that determines greatness. You saying fighter from Joe's era were no good is a fallacy and lie. You saying they didnt use angles or movement is another lie. You dont understand the intricacies of boxing, thats what it boils down to. Would all of Louis's comp have been competitive in later eras? Probably not. Just like all of the comp from later era's would not be competitive with Joe.

You have been shown video that shows Louis style in moder fighters and why it worked. Any style can be countered, thats the nature of the game. But your delusional if you think Joe Louis wasnt the most technically proficient heavyweight ever and would be competitive if not outright champion in any era.

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Ali was dropped by Cooper. George was beat by Young. Frazier had a draw with Ron Stander. Lyle was knocked out by Lynn Ball.

Point is, all fighters have struggled at one point or another with fighters not on their level. It's how you respond that determines greatness. You saying fighter from Joe's era were no good is a fallacy and lie. You saying they didnt use angles or movement is another lie. You dont understand the intricacies of boxing, thats what it boils down to. Would all of Louis's comp have been competitive in later eras? Probably not. Just like all of the comp from later era's would not be competitive with Joe.

You have been shown video that shows Louis style in moder fighters and why it worked. Any style can be countered, thats the nature of the game. But your delusional if you think Joe Louis wasnt the most technically proficient heavyweight ever and would be competitive if not outright champion in any era.

All those fighters you named that dropped 70s fighters moved all better then the Joe era and was way more advanced in movement you slow person and I never seen a video of joes style in modern cause nobody ever made pro using that exact style in future eras cause it was trash like I keep telling you

I told you 2 months ago to take that trash to a gym and you would see what happened If you tried to use it in practice vs somebody they would destroy you cause their using way more advanced movement you idiot

And your crazy not me I don't think anything I told you this before I know for a fact joe wouldnt be dominate cause he never would make pro cause as I said uptop like I told you before nobody made pro using his exact style cause it was trash for future

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All those fighters you named that dropped 70s fighters moved all better then the Joe era and was way more advanced in movement you slow person and I never seen a video of joes style in modern cause nobody ever made pro using that exact style in future eras cause it was trash like I keep telling you

I told you 2 months ago to take that trash to a gym and you would see what happened If you tried to use it in practice vs somebody they would destroy you cause their using way more advanced movement you idiot

And your crazy not me I don't think anything I told you this before I know for a fact joe wouldnt be dominate cause he never would make pro cause as I said uptop like I told you before nobody made pro using his exact style cause it was trash for future

Lmao.....I train 5 days a week. I've fought twice in the past year and had to recently cancel another fight in October because I got covid. So unless you want to tell me where you train, how long you've been Trained and how many fights you have...than get out of here with that "take it to a gym" crap. You can't understand any of this because you simply don't know what you're talking about. Besides myself, several others have debunked your nonsense. Saying the same thing over and over doesn't make you right. And as I've pointed out, there are literally dozens of historians, trainers and past a d present fighters who disagree with you. So no, you don't know anything for a fact. You don't understand the concepts distance, timing or technique. That young jedi is a FACT!!

And where's your top 10 list? Still trying to figure it out 6 months later?