Boxers you are confident could have beaten Mike Tyson at his peak?

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  • NachoMan
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    You mean he's scared of the little turd who couldn't put away Mitch Green?

    Wlad showed more heart and guile in his loss to Joshua than Tyson showed at any point in his career.

    In fact, at least Wlad can say he held it together to actually have a career.
    Wlad and Joshua were two stiff, slow-ass robots fighting. Re-watch the the Wlad-Sanders fight to get some notion of how a prime-for-prime Tyson v Wlad fight would have gone. Wlad could never deal with movement and speed. Imagine what Mike Tyson, who hit harder and was twice as fast as Sanders, would have done. Wlad would have been folded over in half the time it took Corrie Sanders.

    Last edited by NachoMan; 05-20-2020, 09:36 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
      Both Wlad and Tyson had heart and or toughness issues. Tyson was very durable but he tended to become a much more sedate more ordinary fighter when he was being severely tested. There was no Ali Frazier 3 in Tyson’s career where he was pushed to the absolute maximum and won.

      Wlad was koed three times in laughable fashion by Purity, Brewster and Sanders. His chin is not the best as he falls in sections when clipped and he generally appears to be looking for the exit when badly hurt. Wlad was just not that tough.
      What the fook are you talking about!?!?

      What weight did you Box at? For how long? What competitons did you enter/win?

      Wlad lost early in his career to HUGE punchers, when he was still a stiff Euro/Amateur fighter. Never again after moving to Kronk Gym. He then had the longest reign of any Heavyweight.

      Watch his fight with Joshua. Then revise upir post.

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      • HOUDINI563
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        #23
        Chins don’t improve. Watch his first three ko losses if you want a laugh. In all three he does not want to be there once hurt. Wlad lack of durability and heart are the reasons those who are knowledgeable of the sport, not you, do not rate him highly.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HOUDINI563
          Chins don’t improve. Watch his first three ko losses if you want a laugh. In all three he does not want to be there once hurt. Wlad lack of durability and heart are the reasons those who are knowledgeable of the sport, not you, do not rate him highly.
          Oh, yeah just like Joe Louis

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            #25
            Originally posted by NachoMan
            Wlad and Joshua were two stiff, slow-ass robots fighting. Re-watch the the Wlad-Sanders fight to get some notion of how a prime-for-prime Tyson v Wlad fight would have gone. Wlad could never deal with movement and speed. Imagine what Mike Tyson, who hit harder and was twice as fast as Sanders, would have done. Wlad would have been folded over in half the time it took Corrie Sanders.

            Hahahaha!

            OK, I thought it was a two-horse race this week between Billeau and Houdini for who could grab my attention with the most asinine comment. But then you comeout of no where with this! Talk about Dark Horse. They certainly have you beat for quantity (its never ending) but you take it for QUALITY.

            I get it. I'm special . You tricks all want me.

            Soo...

            1) Wlad wasn't working with Steward yet.

            2) Sanders is bigger than Tyson.

            3) Sanders hit WAY harder than Tyson.

            4) Tyson couldn't pounce like that.

            5) Sanders was a SOTHPAW.

            The fact that you can see that fit and still miss the differences between Sanders (a greater TALENT) and Tyson, shows your
            Don't know Boxing. And have no business talking with me.


            We saw what James "I look Like Precious" Douglas did to Tyson. He didn't have Wlad's size, jab or brain-scrambling right hand.

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            • NachoMan
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              #26
              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
              Hahahaha!

              OK, I thought it was a two-horse race this week between Billeau and Houdini for who could grab my attention with the most asinine comment. But then you comeout of no where with this! Talk about Dark Horse. They certainly have you beat for quantity (its never ending) but you take it for QUALITY.

              I get it. I'm special . You tricks all want me.

              Soo...

              1) Wlad wasn't working with Steward yet.

              2) Sanders is bigger than Tyson.

              3) Sanders hit WAY harder than Tyson.

              4) Tyson couldn't pounce like that.

              5) Sanders was a SOTHPAW.

              The fact that you can see that fit and still miss the differences between Sanders (a greater TALENT) and Tyson, shows your
              Don't know Boxing. And have no business talking with me.


              We saw what James "I look Like Precious" Douglas did to Tyson. He didn't have Wlad's size, jab or brain-scrambling right hand.
              What, in your mind, have you revealed to me? Sanders is taller than Tyson? Really? Sanders was a southpaw? You don't say?? Sanders hit harder than Tyson? Bwahahaha!!! Tyson couldn't pounce like Sanders?? Bwaaaaaahahhahhahahaa!!!!! Make a poll of that, kid, and see how it goes. OMG.

              Let me give you some insight into one important reason why Wlad had such a good run with Manny after getting sparked by Sanders and, pathetically, later on against Brewster. You're dumb ass thinks its because Manny perfected his style. The reality is that Wlad never beat anyone who was half as athletic as Sanders because he never again fought anyone half as athletic as Sanders. Manny steered him clear, as anybody who knows anything about the division will attest to, and made sure he fought a steady stream of immobile punching bags. Had Wlad fought Sanders five more times with Manny by his side, he would've lost five more times. He didn't learn to deal with speed, he just avoided it. He never developed the instinct to trade effectively with great inside fighters. Your mind is shot.
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                #27
                Originally posted by NachoMan
                Wlad and Joshua were two stiff, slow-ass robots fighting. Re-watch the the Wlad-Sanders fight to get some notion of how a prime-for-prime Tyson v Wlad fight would have gone. Wlad could never deal with movement and speed. Imagine what Mike Tyson, who hit harder and was twice as fast as Sanders, would have done. Wlad would have been folded over in half the time it took Corrie Sanders.
                - -Sanders well ducked by Bowe/Field/Lewis for being a quick starting S African southpaw KO artist.

                Wlad was 26 with a 40-1 record whereas Tyson cooling off in prison.

                Wlad never KOed, he always was up to be stopped by the ref. Lewis who suffered from the one punch syndrome cannot match Wlad's title record, nor anyone but Joe Louis.

                Time to study up!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -Sanders well ducked by Bowe/Field/Lewis for being a quick starting S African southpaw KO artist.

                  Wlad was 26 with a 40-1 record whereas Tyson cooling off in prison.

                  Wlad never KOed, he always was up to be stopped by the ref. Lewis who suffered from the one punch syndrome cannot match Wlad's title record, nor anyone but Joe Louis.

                  Time to study up!
                  Study up what? What does any of that drivel you wrote mean to you precisely? Wlad was never really KO'd??? Good grief. Wlad was better than Lennox Lewis?? Where the fck are these people coming from, Boxingscene??

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by NachoMan
                    Study up what? What does any of that drivel you wrote mean to you precisely? Wlad was never really KO'd??? Good grief. Wlad was better than Lennox Lewis?? Where the fck are these people coming from, Boxingscene??
                    - -U got U hatching video?

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                    • Rusty Tromboni
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NachoMan
                      What, in your mind, have you revealed to me? Sanders is taller than Tyson? Really? Sanders was a southpaw? You don't say?? Sanders hit harder than Tyson? Bwahahaha!!! Tyson couldn't pounce like Sanders?? Bwaaaaaahahhahhahahaa!!!!! Make a poll of that, kid, and see how it goes. OMG.

                      Let me give you some insight into one important reason why Wlad had such a good run with Manny after getting sparked by Sanders and, pathetically, later on against Brewster. You're dumb ass thinks its because Manny perfected his style. The reality is that Wlad never beat anyone who was half as athletic as Sanders because he never again fought anyone half as athletic as Sanders. Manny steered him clear, as anybody who knows anything about the division will attest to, and made sure he fought a steady stream of immobile punching bags. Had Wlad fought Sanders five more times with Manny by his side, he would've lost five more times. He didn't learn to deal with speed, he just avoided it. He never developed the instinct to trade effectively with great inside fighters. Your mind is shot.
                      Yup.

                      Just as I suspected, another hopeless attention-whore.


                      How does my ***** taste?

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