So Dempsey and Jack Johnson are cherry pickers

[GhostofDempsey]

That's because they don't hurt your feelings the way the evidence I have does to you You make that abundantly clear. We both know why you put me on ignore.

"Wahhhhh wahhh. You called me a liar."


Well then stop lying!!!!!

You're by far the most feminine poster I ever met here. Lies OVER AND OVER because you can't handle the truth.




Oh really? Then why was there an injunction against the Tunney fight?????


Did that happen, or is it a lie. Let's see if you can answer

Let me guess. They issued an injunction because Dempsey was NOT ducking Wills. LMAO.




That's two different instances of trying to get this dude to fight, buddy. But of course you are trying to say it's the same thing Dempsey already broke the contract in June!!!!

STOP LYING!




Who cares about an opinion on who would have won. That's your deflection. He ducked the fight so we never found out who would have won!!! That's the whole point!


If he didn't duck Wills, we wouldn't have to guess who would have won, now would we??????

All these paragraphs of childish gibberish is why no one wants to talk boxing with you, with the exception of your racist buddies who have all been banned at one time or another for their racism. We all know what your agenda is, you’re not fooling anyone.

Another news article for you.

HARRY WILLS - AUGUST 11, 1926


Don’t blame Dempsey

Yes, I know, now, that Dempsey wanted to fight me, but the politics of the game were against it. Powerful politicians said that a black man shouldn’t fight Dempsey for the title. And that ended it.

I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don’t’ think about that anymore.” Wills tells you.

And he can still grin, at the humorous aspects of his career.

[GhostofDempsey]

On June 11, 1922, Dempsey and Wills put pens to contracts. But the powerful New York Commissioner William Muldoon did not want the fight to take place in New York. To complicate matters further, Muldoon and promoter Tex Rickard clashed over, of all things, ticket prices. Muldoon wanted 40,000 tickets fixed at $2.00 for the “working people.” Rickard refused. In retaliation, Muldoon blocked the Dempsey-Wills fight from taking place in New York, even threatening to halt all heavyweight fights until prices came down. Frustrated, Rickard traveled to several states—even north to Montreal—to find a welcoming venue. None wanted the fight or had the money to host the event. When the contract deadline ran out, Wills sued.

Rickard tried to get Dempsey-Wills set up for Montreal, but the backers withdrew without explanation. Edward Van Every, who wrote the biography on William Muldoon in 1929, said the English government axed the Montreal fight, fearing trouble in provinces with "heavy Negro populations" should another black champion hold the title. Every said the British government, not Rickard, Kearns, or Dempsey, made sure a Dempsey-Wills fight didn't happen in Canada. Every also said that Muldoon's actions that kept the fight from happening in New York weren't his own idea, but that "orders from a very high place" forced Muldoon to find a way to block the fight.

Every published his book in 1929 and nobody seemed willing to say he was lying (including Wills) about the circumstances that prevented the fight when he was alive and could be confronted.

[travestyny]

All these paragraphs of childish gibberish is why no one wants to talk boxing with you, with the exception of your racist buddies who have all been banned at one time or another for their racism. We all know what your agenda is, you’re not fooling anyone.

Another news article for you.

HARRY WILLS - AUGUST 11, 1926


Don’t blame Dempsey

Yes, I know, now, that Dempsey wanted to fight me, but the politics of the game were against it. Powerful politicians said that a black man shouldn’t fight Dempsey for the title. And that ended it.

I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don’t’ think about that anymore.” Wills tells you.

And he can still grin, at the humorous aspects of his career.

August 11th, 1926?


Here he is August 20th, 1926 laughing at Dempsey for claiming he's going to challenge him to a winner take all fight. Wondering how Dempsey is challenging him when he has been chasing Dempsey for years

I've never before hears of a champion turning around and challenging the man who has been chasing him for five years.

Here he is straight up saying that Dempsey was ducking.

"I don't expect ever to meet Dempsey in the ring," said a resigned Wills. "He has been dodging me for many years and now I am convinced he has been kidding all along.

https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/man-didn-fight-dempsey-harry-wills-chapter-131-article-1.515138

Ahemmmmm.


All there with the article and with the link for the other quotation. Hit me with your source, partna!

[travestyny]

On June 11, 1922, Dempsey and Wills put pens to contracts. But the powerful New York Commissioner William Muldoon did not want the fight to take place in New York. To complicate matters further, Muldoon and promoter Tex Rickard clashed over, of all things, ticket prices. Muldoon wanted 40,000 tickets fixed at $2.00 for the “working people.” Rickard refused. In retaliation, Muldoon blocked the Dempsey-Wills fight from taking place in New York, even threatening to halt all heavyweight fights until prices came down. Frustrated, Rickard traveled to several states—even north to Montreal—to find a welcoming venue. None wanted the fight or had the money to host the event. When the contract deadline ran out, Wills sued.

Rickard tried to get Dempsey-Wills set up for Montreal, but the backers withdrew without explanation. Edward Van Every, who wrote the biography on William Muldoon in 1929, said the English government axed the Montreal fight, fearing trouble in provinces with "heavy Negro populations" should another black champion hold the title. Every said the British government, not Rickard, Kearns, or Dempsey, made sure a Dempsey-Wills fight didn't happen in Canada. Every also said that Muldoon's actions that kept the fight from happening in New York weren't his own idea, but that "orders from a very high place" forced Muldoon to find a way to block the fight.

Every published his book in 1929 and nobody seemed willing to say he was lying (including Wills) about the circumstances that prevented the fight when he was alive and could be confronted.

When are you going to get to that contract he broke


You know. The one where the court said they don't know how in the hell he could say there was no contract and made it clear that he broke it?

[travestyny]

Another news article for you.

HARRY WILLS - AUGUST 11, 1926

I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don’t’ think about that anymore.” Wills tells you.

Hmmm. Something seems odd here. August 11th, 1926 he says, "I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don't think about that anymore."


And August 20th, 1926 he says: "All I want is to get him inside a ring with me. I'm ready to fight Dempsey any time, any place."

Yea, um, I need that link or article. You got it?

[GhostofDempsey]

When are you going to get to that contract he broke


You know. The one where the court said they don't know how in the hell he could say there was no contract and made it clear that he broke it?

The contract where the money wasn’t really there? Three strikes your out! The fight where Dempsey chose to fight the guy who Wills ducked for $250K? Wills sabotaged his own career turning down top challenges while trying to tie down Dempsey in lawsuits.

[GhostofDempsey]

Evening Independent 10 Aug 1926 article shows the timeline of three fights that were attempted by Dempsey. They must be lying like all of the other sources you disagree with.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=950&dat=19260810&id=f_pPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sVQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4012,5825153

[travestyny]

The contract where the money wasn’t really there? Three strikes your out! The fight where Dempsey chose to fight the guy who Wills ducked for $250K? Wills sabotaged his own career turning down top challenges while trying to tie down Dempsey in lawsuits.

Do you want to see a close up of the check?

But but but.....the money wasn't there doe


A guarantee check, you say? Sounds like....

[travestyny]

Evening Independent 10 Aug 1926 article shows the timeline of three fights that were attempted by Dempsey. They must be lying like all of the other sources you disagree with.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=4012,5825153

Where's the information about that contract he broke?



Oh, and where is your source for this:

HARRY WILLS - AUGUST 11, 1926


Don’t blame Dempsey

Yes, I know, now, that Dempsey wanted to fight me, but the politics of the game were against it. Powerful politicians said that a black man shouldn’t fight Dempsey for the title. And that ended it.

I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don’t’ think about that anymore.” Wills tells you.

And he can still grin, at the humorous aspects of his career.

It's funny that I just called you out to produce the source and you just ignore me. Something isn't adding up here. Are you hiding something?


I swear if you are straight up making up quotations now, that's an all time low, and I'm going to ask that you be barred from this section in shame!

[GhostofDempsey]

Do you want to see a close up of the check?




But but but.....the money wasn't there doe


A check, you say? Sounds like....

A check written after the contract had already been broken. They failed to produce $25K, he chose not to wait around for a third time. He had a guaranteed fight and purse waiting for him with Tunney, a far better and more dangerous opponent than Wills, who never deserved a shot considering all the fighters he ducked.

Where's the information about that contract he broke?



Oh, and where is your source for this:




It's funny that I just called you out to produce the source and you just ignore me. Something isn't adding up here. Are you hiding something?


I swear if you are straight up making up quotations now, that's an all time low, and I'm going to ask that you be barred from this section in shame!

You ignored my sources, now I ignore yours. That is how this works.

Wills is on record saying he didn’t blame Dempsey.

The lawsuit never went anywhere. Wills people could not possibly prove how much money the fight would make.