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  • #41
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
    This NY Times August 11th, 1926 article offers a very su****ious New York State.

    Colonel Phelan, New York State License Committee Chairman pulls a strange technicality out his ass which makes you think that New York never intended to license Dempsey no matter what . . .

    (Incidentally, the NYSAC had the power to sanction a fight but did not have the authority to licence a fighter. That occurred under a different office NYSLC (in this case headed by Colonel Phelan, who from some accounts did not get along with William Muldoon of the NYSAC).

    1. Dempsey tries to use the Michigan contract from 1925 to show he tried to defend his title against Wills but that the fight feel through for lack of payment.

    2. Wills confirms the contract.

    3. Colonel Phelan reviews the contract and then pulls a technicality out his ass. Wait till you see what that technicality was, you're both going to LOL.

    Interesting read! See what you think.

    This makes me think Dempsey never had a chance; New York was out to get him.



    P.S. The rule in question is a New York State rule that a champion must defend his title once every six months.
    This is great. But I'm confused as to why you think this means New York was against Dempsey.


    This is under the Walker law, which ended the period of no decision fights in New York. It also clearly states the rules in the part of the article that you didn't post.




    It says clearly that the bout must be a match to a decision. So what this shows you is that they were declining to let Dempsey fight Wills if he wouldn't put up the title.


    So what [MENTION]GhostofDempse[/MENTION] was accusing Jack Johnson of trying to do (which was false and can be proven by one of Willards matches under the Frawley Act being for the title and everyone and their momma saying the fight would be for the title), we actually have Jack Dempsey being busted for: trying to have a non-title fight with Wills.

    And the New York Commission says nope...not having it.

    So you're saying New York was against Dempsey because they wouldn't allow him to NOT fight for the title? Does that make sense?

    By the way, here's Commissioner Farley saying unequivocally that politics were NOT the reason that this fight wasn't to be, and saying he doesn't believe Dempsey would ever fight.


    I have heard it said that politics is responsible for the failure to bring Dempsey and Wills together. To those who have mentioned this to me I have replied that such a thought is ridiculous. I know of no political or official opposition to such a bout and I have talked with many prominent and powerful men on the subject. On the contrary, I find that there exists a general demand for the bout.
    same article:

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    • #42
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      So what happened, I thought you were telling your mommy on me?

      They couldn’t deliver a $25K check let alone a real $300K one. You’re gullible enough to believe everything you read from 100 years ago. They pulled a check out of their ass after the contract was already broken. Too little too late. Wills went on to get his ass beat down by Sharkey and KTFO by a little Italian fella, lol. He didn’t stand a chance with Dempsey. Jack did him a favor, ‘ole Harry should have the $250K to get KO’d by Tunney instead of Sharkey. Wills made a lot of poor career choices.

      By the way, that Wills quote, you believed it on that other thread, now suddenly you don’t. Such a dishonest sore loser.

      This is the guy you think would have beaten Dempsey!
      Where's that source at, Ghost?


      You still have the nerve to show your face around here, huh? Unbelievable!


      So tell me. When have I ever refused to source my information???? When have I not posted the article directly, or given a link where it could be found in the least? Never happened.


      But you think you're slick, huh? LMAOOOOO. I know EXACTLY what happened. And I know why there is no source.

      I also know it's false. Here is more for you to cry about.



      Two days after you said he wasn't worried about Dempsey, he was wanting to fight him in the street??????? LMAOOOO.

      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      Another news article for you.

      HARRY WILLS - AUGUST 11, 1926


      Don’t blame Dempsey

      Yes, I know, now, that Dempsey wanted to fight me, but the politics of the game were against it. Powerful politicians said that a black man shouldn’t fight Dempsey for the title. And that ended it.

      I still think I had a great chance to beat him but I don’t’ think about that anymore.” Wills tells you.

      And he can still grin, at the humorous aspects of his career.


      But tell me....do you know what a guarantee check is?




      It's over son and you officially go down in the history section hall of shame for refusing to give sources for your information....BECAUSE THE SOURCE DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOOO. SHAME ON YOU!
      Last edited by travestyny; 05-02-2020, 11:45 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

        This is the guy you think would have beaten Dempsey!

        Oh, by the way, that's cute. Keep deflecting to your biased opinion (so biased that you have to post unsourced bullshlt that doesn't add up ) as if your opinion of who would win has any bearing on Dempsey ducking the fvvck outta Wills. Is this the guy you think was going to fight Harry Wills?

        The same guy that ran out of the ring from Joe Jeannette in New York City? That didn't happen either, I guess


        Last edited by travestyny; 05-02-2020, 11:47 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          Where's that source at, Ghost?


          You still have the nerve to show your face around here, huh? Unbelievable!


          So tell me. When have I ever refused to source my information???? When have I not posted the article directly, or given a link where it could be found in the least? Never happened.


          But you think you're slick, huh? LMAOOOOO. I know EXACTLY what happened. And I know why there is no source.

          I also know it's false. Here is more for you to cry about.



          Two days after you said he wasn't worried about Dempsey, he was wanting to fight him in the street??????? LMAOOOO.




          But tell me....do you know what a guarantee check is?



          It's over son and you officially go down in the history section hall of shame for refusing to give sources for your information....BECAUSE THE SOURCE DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOOO.
          The source is in the link I gave you lazy ass, go fetch it. I’m not your secretary. I know you don’t want to revisit that thread because you were exposed and owned all at once. Your psychosis is on full display. Now go report me snitch.

          Why would they produce a check when the contract was already voided? Showmanship. Wills wanted lawsuit money more than he wanted the fights. Three strikes and he was out!

          Wills was locked in lawsuits instead of fighting the top contenders. He tried to bait Dempsey any way he could. If you do your homework you’ll find the quotes.

          You’ve exhausted your resources on yet another thread, cherry picking your “facts” to support your agenda. We all know you, we see you.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            This is great. But I'm confused as to why you think this means New York was against Dempsey.


            This is under the Walker law, which ended the period of no decision fights in New York. It also clearly states the rules in the part of the article that you didn't post.




            It says clearly that the bout must be a match to a decision. So what this shows you is that they were declining to let Dempsey fight Wills if he wouldn't put up the title.


            So what [MENTION]GhostofDempse[/MENTION] was accusing Jack Johnson of trying to do (which was false and can be proven by one of Willards matches under the Frawley Act being for the title and everyone and their momma saying the fight would be for the title), we actually have Jack Dempsey being busted for: trying to have a non-title fight with Wills.

            And the New York Commission says nope...not having it.

            So you're saying New York was against Dempsey because they wouldn't allow him to NOT fight for the title? Does that make sense?

            By the way, here's Commissioner Farley saying unequivocally that politics were NOT the reason that this fight wasn't to be, and saying he doesn't believe Dempsey would ever fight.



            same article:

            More article snippets that you’ve cropped and shopped, just like the fake message you claimed to have sent me that you clearly photoshopped. Crafty little fella.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
              The source is in the link I gave you lazy ass, go fetch it. I’m not your secretary. I know you don’t want to revisit that thread because you were exposed and owned all at once. Your psychosis is on full display. Now go report me snitch.
              The thread where I took a bunch of cry babies like you to school, as usual.

              Post it up. What are you afraid of.



              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
              Why would they produce a check when the contract was already voided? Showmanship. Wills wanted lawsuit money more than he wanted the fights. Three strikes and he was out!

              Wills was locked in lawsuits instead of fighting the top contenders. He tried to bait Dempsey any way he could. If you do your homework you’ll find the quotes.

              You’ve exhausted your resources on yet another thread, cherry picking your “facts” to support your agenda. We all know you, we see you.
              Because, unlike Dempsey, THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE CONTRACT. IN FACT, THEY HONORED THE CONTRACT




              What is that? $300,000 on the 5th day of August.


              Let's hear you say you're wrong about your idol

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              • #47
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                More article snippets that you’ve cropped and shopped, just like the fake message you claimed to have sent me that you clearly photoshopped. Crafty little fella.
                Fake message I claimed to send you that I photoshopped?


                Do tell what you mean. I know how you get busted for shlt all the time and how you try to project your own bullshlt unto others.


                So please tell me. What message did I send to you that was photoshopped. Waiting!!!!!!!! Don't embarrass yourself again now for the 751057075714th time


                By the way. Want to see the full article. I'm not like you, you dishonest rat. Here ya go

                http://freepdfhosting.com/33b7a354e4.pdf

                Go ahead. Claim it's doctored now!!!!!

                You are an utter embarrassment and I'm thoroughly enjoying you exposing this to everyone!!! LMAOOOOO!
                [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                Last edited by travestyny; 05-03-2020, 12:08 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  The thread where I took a bunch of cry babies like you to school, as usual.

                  Post it up. What are you afraid of.





                  Because, unlike Dempsey, THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE CONTRACT. IN FACT, THEY HONORED THE CONTRACT




                  What is that? $300,000 on the 5th day of August.


                  Let's hear you say you're wrong about your idol
                  Stop playing dumb, I posted the link you keep ignoring. Nice cropped article. No author no real sources as usual.

                  Your idol was an overrated fraud whose best wins came against middleweights and green fighters. He fought Jim Johnson to a draw....Dempsey’s sparring partner who he KO’d in sparring, lol.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                    Stop playing dumb, I posted the link you keep ignoring. Nice cropped article. No author no real sources as usual.

                    Your idol was an overrated fraud whose best wins came against middleweights and green fighters. He fought Jim Johnson to a draw....Dempsey’s sparring partner who he KO’d in sparring, lol.
                    You posted a link of what????? LMAOOO. I don't see anything taking me to that newspaper article.

                    Where they at, doe?


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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Fake message I claimed to send you that I photoshopped?


                      Do tell what you mean. I know how you get busted for shlt all the time and how you try to project your own bullshlt unto others.


                      So please tell me. What message did I send to you that was photoshopped. Waiting!!!!!!!! Don't embarrass yourself again now for the 751057075714th time


                      By the way. Want to see the full article. I'm not like you, you dishonest rat. Here ya go

                      http://freepdfhosting.com/33b7a354e4.pdf

                      Go ahead. Claim it's doctored now!!!!!

                      You are an utter embarrassment and I'm thoroughly enjoying you exposing this to everyone!!! LMAOOOOO!
                      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                      You know exactly what I’m talking about coward. Don’t try to play dumb now. You need to start hanging around a better class of people instead of those clown friends of yours in the ‘Dome. You have been caught in so many lies over the years. Mr. Ivy League, Mr. 0% body fat, Army vet, was at the towers during 9/11. The list goes on. Plus we are all familiar with your photoshop skills.

                      So, when are you reporting me snitch? Any time now?

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