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Who ranks higher as a HW ATG...Rid**** Bowe or Wlad

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  • #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    I wonder if Andrew Golota's mental breakdowns were due to steroid use?
    Are you re. tarded?

    Have you ever played sports? Entered a gym? Broken a sweat? Do you even know anyone who's fit?

    Steroids cause mental breakdown?
    You can feel frustrated. But they don't cause mental disease.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MaxT View Post
      Start exchange and beat **** out Wlad. Or Vitaliy, its no big difference for Bowe.

      Both Klitchkos looks good when they fight their fight: cоnstantly hitting helples opponent from safe distance. Is opponent refuce to get hit constantly, repeatedly gets close, and, most inportanly land some of his punches, it's a problem for brothes, particalary for Wlad.

      Wladimir PANIC when he gets into wild exenges than he cant control. Thats why he lose to walking bag Brewstwer, not that poisoning ****. He got scared by Sam Peter who can't box at all.

      Vitaliy had his face smashed by old fat out of shape unmotivated Lewis, which gave him every oportunity to win by KO. IN-SHAPE Bowe was way better than old fat Lewis and have IRON chin. Moreover, Bowe was better browler than prime Lewis, so he will smash Klitchko not only with rights.
      Kill yourself.

      Originally posted by BKM- View Post
      This post is all over the place. But I'll try to educate you on some of the basics of the sport of boxing. Pay attention kid.

      First off, fights are scored on a round to round basis. It's a 10 point must system, meaning boxers have to win each round and after 12, if it gets that far, the judges count up the points and the boxer with the most points wins.

      So this beginner's mistake you made there, looking at the total punch stats in order to pick a winner? That's a very common mistake, perhaps the most common.

      Let me give you a little test, little Max. Fighter A fights Fighter B in a 10 round fight. Fighter A has 6 rounds where he lands very solid punches consistently, doing damage which dictates the action. Fighter B has 4 rounds where he throws and lands a lot of punches, outscoring fighter A significantly but they're not damaging shots.

      At the end of the fight Fighter B has a higher amount of punch stats as measured by the computer. Does Fighter B win the fight?

      Lets see if Max gets the right answer, folks.
      I think that night was Holyfield's best. I'm sure others will disagree. Not only is Bowe the best/most dangerous scalp on Holly's mantle, he also avenged a loss and did it by fighting smart. Again not "classic" Holyfield, but his best night.

      I don't think it was easy though. It was competitive. And Bowe wasn't completely stupified.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
        Are you re. tarded?

        Have you ever played sports? Entered a gym? Broken a sweat? Do you even know anyone who's fit?

        Steroids cause mental breakdown?
        You can feel frustrated. But they don't cause mental disease.
        You're back from your latest ban? How long until your next one?

        Roid rage could explain some of Golota's bizarre actions. Such as biting Samson Po'uha in the neck.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          I wonder if Andrew Golota's mental breakdowns were due to steroid use?
          Nobody can be 100% sure, but according to Golota's wife someone persuaded already ill Duva to such controversial allegations.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            You're back from your latest ban? How long until your next one?

            Roid rage could explain some of Golota's bizarre actions. Such as biting Samson Po'uha in the neck.
            No dumb ass. It wouldn't. Not at all. Did LeBron ever bite anyone? Did jones or ali ever foul themselves out of a fight? In a sport where looking cross eyed at an official can get you bounce, did Bonds ever get ejected from a game period?

            Roid rage is a thing. But it's grossly exaggerated.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dariusz View Post
              Nobody can be 100% sure, but according to Golota's wife someone persuaded already ill Duva to such controversial allegations.
              Here is a better question: what did Golota's sparring look like? If it was like free fighting there's a good chance he suffered extreme PTE.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                No dumb ass. It wouldn't. Not at all. Did LeBron ever bite anyone? Did jones or ali ever foul themselves out of a fight? In a sport where looking cross eyed at an official can get you bounce, did Bonds ever get ejected from a game period?

                Roid rage is a thing. But it's grossly exaggerated.
                Mix in a salad and drop some weight, fat boy.

                Maybe you'll be less of a miserable prick that way.

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                • #38
                  Wladimir has the better resume.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post

                    Wlad H2H he's easily top 5.

                    Based on what? 10 year reign only gets you so much.

                    Wlad has no resume, no performance, not even a sequence of events worthy of study, but h2h he's top five.

                    His career overlaps names, he fought none because he only fought mandatories.

                    He fought plenty of no hopers, mostly no hopers, and still managed to never put on a great show of skill.

                    Beyond being the only ten year reigning champion, Wlad has a few more all time records. He and Pov put on the huggiest heavyweight title fight of all time, including eras when throws were legal, and he's the only champion who had punched himself in the face to defend his title against a challenger who had also punched himself in the face.

                    Wlad got beaten by b-side talent when real talent existed in the division and avoided the real talent all together, he beat a whole lot of nothing in a whole lot of underwhelming fights that displayed nothing and then lost as soon as he was forced to fight talented fighters again.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                      Based on what? 10 year reign only gets you so much.

                      Wlad has no resume, no performance, not even a sequence of events worthy of study, but h2h he's top five.

                      His career overlaps names, he fought none because he only fought mandatories.

                      He fought plenty of no hopers, mostly no hopers, and still managed to never put on a great show of skill.

                      Beyond being the only ten year reigning champion, Wlad has a few more all time records. He and Pov put on the huggiest heavyweight title fight of all time, including eras when throws were legal, and he's the only champion who had punched himself in the face to defend his title against a challenger who had also punched himself in the face.

                      Wlad got beaten by b-side talent when real talent existed in the division and avoided the real talent all together, he beat a whole lot of nothing in a whole lot of underwhelming fights that displayed nothing and then lost as soon as he was forced to fight talented fighters again.
                      - -Wlad a Olympic gold medalist and Vitali turned pro in a newly formed country that had zero history of pro boxing. They were derided from their inception by misanthropes barely removed from apes.

                      Wlad timeline similar to Ali and can easily be tracked head to head. Most of his opposition clearly beats Ali's and many names will be added to the future HOFs.

                      Wlad never KDed by sub 200 lb prospects or fringes or shamed himself against Leon. Only heavy since Louis to challenge and beat some of the Louis records.

                      Ok, no credit by U, one of the 100s of thousands emasculated Americans and Brits they dominated during their reign of terror!

                      What key of soprano U sing in?

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