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  • Rusty Tromboni
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    #21
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
    - -U shot before U prime. Shame that but expected of young candies.
    Touche.......

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    • Black Jesus
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      #22
      Manilla Thrilla
      Holmes vs Cooney
      Tyson vs Holyfield I
      Patterson vs Johansson II
      Brewster vs Klitschko I
      Bowe vs Holyfield (I or II)
      Johnson vs Jeffries
      Holmes vs Norton

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      • HOUDINI563
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        #23
        Baer vs Schmeling was not for the heavyweight championship of the world. Jack Sharkey was the champion at that time. Later that same month Carnera beat Sharkey for the title.

        Baer then stopped Carnera to win the worlds heavyweight championship.

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        • HOUDINI563
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          #24
          Regarding Ali Frazier 3 Joe was beaten all over the ring in round 14. He was helpless. The referee had to walk him back to his corner at the bell. If you watch the fight you see Joe sitting on his stool being given smelling salts. Very clearly you see Joe mouth the words “I can’t see”. No chance you send a totally blind fighter out for a 15th round after taking that kind of thrashing in round 14.....as well as the 3 rounds preceding the 14th.

          The idea Ali was going to quit in his corner in a fight he was clearly way ahead after using Joes head as a punching bag staggering him about the ring is implausible. Ali is rated the greatest of all heavyweight champions for many reasons. Not being a quitter is one of them.

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          • HOUDINI563
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            #25
            Jeffries Sharkey
            Jeffries Corbett 1
            Dempsey Firpo
            Louis Conn
            Marciano Walcott 1
            Marciano Charles 1
            Ali Frazier 1
            Ali Foreman
            Ali Frazier 3
            Holmes Norton
            Last edited by HOUDINI563; 06-11-2020, 10:18 PM.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #26
              Originally posted by HOUDINI563
              Regarding Ali Frazier 3 Joe was beaten all over the ring in round 14. He was helpless. The referee had to walk him back to his corner at the bell. If you watch the fight you see Joe sitting on his stool being given smelling salts. Very clearly you see Joe mouth the words “I can’t see”. No chance you send a totally blind fighter out for a 15th round after taking that kind of thrashing in round 14.....as well as the 3 rounds preceding the 14th.

              The idea Ali was going to quit in his corner in a fight he was clearly way ahead after using Joes head as a punching bag staggering him about the ring is implausible. Ali is rated the greatest of all heavyweight champions for many reasons. Not being a quitter is one of them.
              - -What's not implausible is eye witness testimony by Futch 2nd monitoring the Ali corner for inside info.

              U making up more 156 IQ nonsense ain't gonna cut here anymore than denying young Clay went full hysteric at Sonny 1 weighin that almost cancelled that fight and then again that almost stopped the fight when he started screaming "Cut the Gloves off."

              And indeed, Ali couldn't get off his stool after Futch pulled Joe who was up firing punches 15 sec before the 15th would have begun.

              Ali also collapsed 20 sec after Foreman was waved off surrounded by his corner. He had to be carried to his stool where he remained for quite some time. Meanwhile the supposedly exhausted Foreman was carving his own way thru the crowd and then to the Hotel already talking about the rematch that Herbert and Ferdie refused to let Ali even consider.

              Your welcome!

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              • HOUDINI563
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                #27
                Ali stated multiple times he purposefully sat on the canvas to avoid the crowds who were trying to lift him to their shoulders to celibate the victory. This can be clearly seen on the film.

                There is no evidence Ali was going to quit after round 14. He had beaten Frazier all over the ring that round. Frazier was completely blind. You can see Joe say this himself again very clearly as he sat on his stool. “I can’t see”.

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                  Ali stated multiple times he purposefully sat on the canvas to avoid the crowds who were trying to lift him to their shoulders to celibate the victory. This can be clearly seen on the film.

                  There is no evidence Ali was going to quit after round 14. He had beaten Frazier all over the ring that round. Frazier was completely blind. You can see Joe say this himself again very clearly as he sat on his stool. “I can’t see”.
                  - -Oh, U 156 IQ now a deaf school lip reader is it now?

                  We have the Futch testimony that Joe knew about that Ali quitting arrived too late after Futch pulled Joe.

                  Shouldn't U stick to the soft science of sociology instead of the sweet science where U get KOed leading with U mug?

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                  • HOUDINI563
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                    #29
                    As Ali’s corner stated after the bout...had the fight continued to a 15th round Frazier would have died. He had no chance of winning, he was blind and completely spent. All of this is why Futch stopped the fight. Futch later stated he knew Joes family and would not allow Joe to become permanent injured. Futch.... “Ali was too big for Joe”.

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                    • The Old LefHook
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                      #30
                      So, dini claims to have an IQ of 156? I did not find anything about that. Is that the claim, by buggery?

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