Is Fury a top 10 all-time great?

[billeau2]

Oh yeah and a recent report just came out that said Fury wants to fight 2 more times and retire, a Wilder rematch and a Joshua fight. So if he sticks with that, it would really depend on how AJ's career turns out. A few more defenses would put him much further up the rankings, but I guess he wants to cash out on some big fights, maybe go back to WWE again.

I guess people sometimes forget... We're not talking about a few extra days on the widget factory line here LOL. More like do we want to be wearing Pampers when our grandkids visit us?

[billeau2]

This is actually an interesting argument.

Lewis lost to Mercer. And was KO'd while champion.

Even if his competition had better name-recognition it wasn't necessarily better than Wlad's, nor was Lewis better than Wlad.

Lewis has some seriously impressive scalps. But so do Jack Johnson, Joe Calzaghe and Macho Camacho. Which one of them would be considered ATG?

I think we've all accepted that the bigger Heavyweights get, the thinner the competition.

And Vlad didn't lose?

We have not all accepted anything I am aware of. Lewis was big he fought consistently excellent comp...look at who he fought... Guys like golota Morrison rudock, Holly...now just to be clear here I can predict what you going to do next. You're going to qualify everyone that Lewis had right?

Morrison had an **** twitch that day, rud**** had a fight with his wife... Cuz there ain't no other way anyone can say Vlad fought the love of competition that lewis did.

[billeau2]

- -Again, genuflecting your navel ain't legit analysis.

Every fighter has a timeline for comparison, and some like Ali and Wlad match up well starting with could Wlad beat Ali's Olympic comp and vice versa.

Wlad already on top, and so it goes until Ali's Viet hiatus, but we can pick him up at age 28 and see if Wlad could beat Quarry and Bonavena and vice versa.

Clearly Wlad fought tougher, bigger, stronger comp but Ali has the golden age names and HOFers, but then his first HOFer the near or past 50 yr old Archie Moore and his 2nd the dubious 2 Liston fights.

When he faces a legit prime HOFer he gets whipped badly, and then sadly hangs on for horrendous beatings that put him in a pitiable condition such that parents steered their kids into alternate sports.

Your point about a range of comparison it's actually a very good one. Those golden opponents our opponents like George Foreman and Ken Norton, and other tough fighters like Frasier. It's not a given that vlad would be able to use his size to defeat men of that skill level.

[billeau2]

Let's say Fury knocks out Deontay Wilder in the third fight as well as Anthony Joshua, then retires.

Will his resume be among the 10 best ever at heavyweight? Probably not.

But in a head-to-head matchup against any heavyweight in history would you be comfortable picking many of them to actually beat him in the ring?

Similar line of thought as that regarding Mike Tyson.

[ShoulderRoll]

A master like Braddock would box Fury's ear lobes off.

Braddock was 6'2" with a 75 inch reach.

Fury is 6'9" with a monstrous 85 inch reach.

I don't see Fury getting outboxed by him.

[Rusty Tromboni]

And Vlad didn't lose?

We have not all accepted anything I am aware of. Lewis was big he fought consistently excellent comp...look at who he fought... Guys like golota Morrison rudock, Holly...now just to be clear here I can predict what you going to do next. You're going to qualify everyone that Lewis had right?

Morrison had an **** twitch that day, rud**** had a fight with his wife... Cuz there ain't no other way anyone can say Vlad fought the love of competition that lewis did.

Ray. Fookin. Mercer.

The terms of surrender will be very favorable, I assure you.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Similar line of thought as that regarding Mike Tyson.

I would not pick Mike to beat Ali, Klitchkos and Foreman. I think agaisnt a PRIME Holmes, Lewis and Holyfield we need a trilogy. Firy ****s Tyson.

[K-DOGG]

Let's say Fury knocks out Deontay Wilder in the third fight as well as Anthony Joshua, then retires.

Will his resume be among the 10 best ever at heavyweight? Probably not.

But in a head-to-head matchup against any heavyweight in history would you be comfortable picking many of them to actually beat him in the ring?

Head to head, a 6' 9", 250+ mobile man with his skillset is going to be a threat against virtually any heavyweight who has ever lived.

So, "comfortable"?

No; but he is beatable by smaller men, if they have the fortitude and skill to get the job done. Men with faster hands and feet would have the best chance, IMO. They certainly can't let him lean on and wrestle them, as he did against Wilder.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Braddock was 6'2" with a 75 inch reach.

Fury is 6'9" with a monstrous 85 inch reach.

I don't see Fury getting outboxed by him.

I can't believe that kakk sucker hasbt been banned. He's a troll who only says ridiculous **** to get attention.

Braddock never outboxed anyone and Fury is rge bedt pure boxer the division has ever seen. That ***** is the worst attention whore this website has ever seen.

[MrRolltide91]

At heavyweight?

If not already than certainly after a Joshua win.

How high would you rank him?

Who is in your top 10???