Did Liston really have a shoulder injury?

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  • johnbook
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    #1

    Did Liston really have a shoulder injury?

    When he arguably quit vs [then] Clay? Or had he had enough by then? Hell even the liniment treatment hadn't worked.

    Can't see evidence even in that last rd. Still throwing the same.

    Any proof anywhere, medicals etc.?

    See the proof of Danny Williams dislocated shoulder--that bump.
    And see how he still fought and somehow won:
  • OctoberRed
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    #2
    There are a dozen conspiracy theories about that fight all these years later.

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    • johnbook
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      #3
      Maybe this is as close to "the answer" as we will get:

      "But David Remnick spoke to one of Liston's cornermen for his book, King of the World, and was told the shoulder 'was all BS...cooked up on the spot' so as not to jeopardize Liston's rematch with Clay.""
      Before there was Muhammad Ali, there was Cassius Clay, a bombastic young boxer who was expected to lose to Sonny Liston when the two fought in 1964—but he didn't. A startling report sheds new light on that stirring bout early in Ali's career and the FBI investigation that was launched to determine its legitimacy.

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      • Anthony342
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        #4
        It was Liston's version of No Mas.

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        • johnbook
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          #5
          I have thought that too.
          Plus he feared a T/KO as there was nothing he could do...Was getting pummelled and getting worse, outjabbed etc., eye damage

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