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Sports is just the miniature of that.
Sports is just the miniature of that.
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We all know that Holmes is just a poor man's Kevin Johnson.Comment
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i know them.. but i am not young.. you got me there.Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
when daniel was in the lions den.. his king was tricked to put him in then lion's den...
in *******.. i am a ***... daniel.. said.. on my GOD... if you decide i die here.. i die...m
he lived.. and served his king..kings... several empires.. he served.. stayed true.. i am unworthy to say his name..
in jap.. they say.. you need to make tea outta his toe jam.... meaning.. you are so beneath him.. do not mention his name.Comment
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Larry
Was my favorite fighter as a kid. Well.. he and Tommy.
He wasn’t as good as Ali. Wasn’t as “great” as Ali and Larry REFERS to Ali when he thinks he needs to jockey for some position in some eternal pantheon of Boxing Greats as a benchmark. He doesn’t.
When Larry fought Tyson there is a preview clip on the HBO telecast interspersed with Larry speaking and his career highlights. As sanctimonious and bloviating as he can or could be at times, Larry Merchant’s narration encapsulates everything true about Larry in terms of how Larry saw his image... and how Larry felt he needed to set some record straight with a press and media and public that while admittedly, missed out on appreciating who he really was and how good he really was. Larry’s issue to me was he complained no one understood or valued him and then he used Ali and or whomever else as some straw man comparison... rather than walk that walk of “I’m me and I don’t care what you think”.
Larry Holmes was a great great fighter. And many including I liked that he was pretty much as real a fighter as you could be: superbly gifted but flawed; possessing of many great traits not one of which was timelessly transcendent on its face to proclaim to the thickest or more neophyte among the public how amazing he was. And no.. a great jab isn’t that thing.
He wasn’t a killer hitter but he could hit. He wasn’t silky smooth but he was smooth. He couldn’t move beautifully but damn he still moved. And tough as all hell without being a bruiser type.
Maybe Larry just needed to be a little less sharp minded and play the aw shucks card.
His place in history is secure.Comment
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Holmes does not make the top 10 AT heavyweight list. But almost. Ol' sunken chest never did have much of a punch on him, and he moved like a circus elephant. All the great ones would stomp him--Dempsey, Tunney, Johnson, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Clay, Lewis. That is 10 already, and there are more historical heavyweights I believe would whip Holmes.
The message to boxers with legacy ambitions is always the same--fight the best now not later. Holmes has a semi-mediocre ledger for competition. He lived in the same world as Foreman & Frazier and never fought them. Go away, Larry. You have always been an insecure squall baby over your legacy.Comment
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Great post!Originally posted by CBZSharkey View Post
History moves... Like a boxer I s'pose. Larry has seen two ends of the dialectic, starting out with no place, subsequently elevated to greatness, and the pendulum still swings. When we look at Holmes its amazing all we see. I happen to think his lateral movement from the chest, shoulders and head was perhaps the best in the heavyweights. Not that this in itself does much for him when we narrow things down to ten men considered the best ever... But the guy had some traits that were not just born of his mentorship under Ali.
I don't know how I rate Larry yet. The day is young...Comment
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- -Rate him embittered and insecure, same as when he entered adolescence.
In short, he never grew up.Comment
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