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Based on power alone is Wilder the hardest hitter in boxing history?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
    David Tua is up there too, IMO.
    Yeah.

    Especially since he was dangerous every second of the fight.

    He kinda needed to be. That washisthing.He waited until bigger, more atheltic, more complete/sound Boxers got tired to do his best work.

    It hurt him though because he was the caricature of a slugger.

    If he had come of age in an era without PEDs I doubt he would have made anything of himself. At all.

    Then again, if he had been paired with someone like Gil Clancy early in his career,he could have been a Heavyweight Valdez. and a shoe-in for top 10 All-Time.

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    • #22
      Like you I just can't stand overrated narcissists who ducked most of the greatest challenges of their careers. Wilder is simply a one dimensional fighter that's matched well.

      Originally posted by BKM- View Post
      Wouldn't be surprised at all, and I would have no issue with anyone proclaiming him to be #1. It's scary the amount of force he creates and the visible impact it causes, and the amount of times he put so many opponents in very dire straits in the ring. He also has the KO% record going for him too. Yeah he's probably the hardest one-shot puncher ever.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
        Like you I just can't stand overrated narcissists who ducked most of the greatest challenges of their careers. Wilder is simply a one dimensional fighter that's matched well.
        Wilder? He faced the most avoided boxers in Fury and Ortiz. He signed up to fight Povetkin who got cancelled due to a failed test. Wlad retired, and AJ turned out to be a bust most likely. He's no Roid Jones Jr. if that's who you want to compare him to.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BKM- View Post
          Wilder? He faced the most avoided boxers in Fury and Ortiz. He signed up to fight Povetkin who got cancelled due to a failed test. Wlad retired, and AJ turned out to be a bust most likely. He's no Roid Jones Jr. if that's who you want to compare him to.
          - -Not a failed test.

          U a failed project. Lawsuits on going while U circle the drain.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -Not a failed test.

            U a failed project. Lawsuits on going while U circle the drain.
            You got any excuses for Roy tonight?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BKM- View Post
              You got any excuses for Roy tonight?
              - -Dunno him. U Buds?

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              • #27
                (1) There is pure power that is measured on a punching machine, and (2) there is that percentage of a boxer's "pure" power he normally manages to make his opponents feel, and all the factors which enable it. His dimensions and pattern of movement are part of the equation that enables him to hit the other man with solid power. Confused men, for instance, should be easier to hit. Once in a while a boxer manages to connect on target with everything he's got. Usually, less will suffice for big punchers.

                I know Wilder has one of the best partnerships of power and percentage ever. I still feel he could never punch a machine as hard as Foreman, but his shots are sharper and very hard anyway. All shots are meant to KO his opponents or stun them enough to set them up for the KO, not to slowly break down castle walls. He is a conservative flailer whose height overlooks and overcomes many flaws, allowing him to find his target eventually. But against other height giants he should usually have trouble, being a mediocre pure boxer.

                Fury, of course, is no good test for anyone because Who Cares whether he can stay away for twelve rounds and tap Wilder more. Wilder cannot exactly avoid Fury now, but it is unfortunate that his career evolved in such a way that Fury has to now play a significant role, for the gypsy is a leading contender for most boring heavyweight champion of all time inside the ring though an ace promoter outside of it, as long as he keeps his nose clean.

                One criterion I find useful is noting the degree of stillness opponents display during count out.

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                • #28
                  - -Be still Thy boiling bowels.

                  The Precious Deyonce still lives to float the petticoats of his idolaters yet again.

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