Wasted talent

[billeau2]

Watching old vids of Naz reminded me just how good he was and had he not turned into, well, a complete c**t, I wonder what heights he could have reached.


What fighters do we think wasted what god gave them, for what ever reason?

Just thought of one more guy... I have tried to stay away from the more popular names that get brought up with this topic. If we take a guy like Broner, one has to think he had a lot of talent in the first place. I never saw it. No mobility to speak of, no power at his weight class, Nothing to suggest the ability to fight up and down in different divisions. Then we have guys like one of my favorite fighters Mayorga. I think Mayorga was very talented, but, to me he parlayed that talent as far as it would go. His power got that oomph! to it because, like his theatrics, it was explosive and he beat some great fighters because of it.

By contrast we have some guys who form a special category of wasted talent...These are guys who had multiple talents and just could not give it all to boxing. My favorite guy in this category was the late "Corey Sanders." Sanders loved to golf and won at it often. He was also a police man in South Africa. I always felt that if he had devoted more time to boxing he could have been a lot better. He had remarkable power, not only the Vlad fight, but he also shook Vitalie with a good punch.

Like Golota, (another near do well) who had great combos and good feet, Sanders was the perfect size for a mobile heavyweight. But while Golota had complex psychological problems, Corrie simply could not train enough to maintain excellence.

[OctoberRed]

Michael Grant, Andrew Golota, Rid**** Bowe

[VegasMichael]

Donald Curry, Michael Nunn, Mike Tyson

[billeau2]

The foul Pole was wasted talent, by buggery if he wasn't!

Best Polish fighter that ever was...perfected the nut shot. Showed Big Daddy Bowe that his sack was nothing but a speed bag.

Let me tell you something mr Lefty!!! If in our evolution the nutsack was on our chin instead of our groin? Golota would be sugar ray Peroshka!

[smeck]

Kenny “**** ****” Bogner

[Rusty Tromboni]

Edwin Valero

He reminds me of a lot of dudes in Kickboxing and MMA who excelled as power-punchers only to wind up getting starched themselves.

Roids are great. But there's a reason every gym (tries) to teach technique.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Best Polish fighter that ever was...perfected the nut shot. Showed Big Daddy Bowe that his sack was nothing but a speed bag.

Let me tell you something mr Lefty!!! If in our evolution the nutsack was on our chin instead of our groin? Golota would be sugar ray Peroshka!

I really do believe Golota had the makings of a champion, if he weren't so insane.


Moorer, Benitez and Patterson weren't wasted talents, but I don't think we saw what they could really do, while we absolutely know that they were world class.

[billeau2]

I really do believe Golota had the makings of a champion, if he weren't so insane.


Moorer, Benitez and Patterson weren't wasted talents, but I don't think we saw what they could really do, while we absolutely know that they were world class.

Believe? ha! All it takes is pulling some tapes of Andrew. Something that it amazes me that more people here generally do not seem to do.

Boy oh boy!! In my youth? if Olivia neuton John had been in a skin mag, and if one could watch virtually any old fight on a source? combined with my parents book collection? You could let me become a chair, hose me off once in a while, and leave a meal now and then!

Seriously Golota was very talented. Fast, crisp, great combo's and a perfect size. We talk about "styles" Andrew was much better than a standard Euro trained fighter in his methods, and even in his instincts. Went to all places, the body, the head, etc.

[billeau2]

Michael Grant, Andrew Golota, Rid**** Bowe

October what do you see in Grant? I always felt he was over hyped.

[john l]

Edwin Valero

A lot of people would pick him, but for me I never seen greatness in him. His only two wins vs top 10 fighters was DeMarco and Mosquera. He did not look very impressive to me vs DeMarco and Mosquera was barley a top 10 fighter and I think he got dropped by him. His crazy KO record and the fawning of a couple writers like D Fisher(who is known to have favs and be VERY biased) made him out to be something he never was imo. Also his early death before he fought many good fighters ends up being a plus for him historically imo.