The First Ever 1920s Heavy Ring Rankings

[Ben Bolt]

Nat was no choirboy having been part of the under the table brown envelope media the mob feted in the 40s.

I don’t think anybody involved in boxing is a choirboy.

Everyone had to fear the mob at the time. But the mob didn’t take unnecessary fights (which The Ring, a strong voice back then, knew). There are reports that the mob threatened The Ring to take away its mags from every newsstands if it didn’t “follow orders”. The Ring didn’t, and nothing happened.
Smart criminals choose their victims. Carbo & co. were smart, and why they survived (too long).

[billeau2]

Rankings always reflect something, and its a question of "what" that something is. Things probably were a little easier then. Boxing was concentrated, the talent pool came from one place with a few exceptions, and there was consistency from the herd, to the top.

I mean, one night we went out and had Wagyu beef...Not much of a meat eater these days, but it was delicious, and then it hit me...It tasted like steak when I was a kid. I sort of remembered why when I was a kid I could eat a giant steak compared to now, when meat just taste different...Or, when you bought an appliance back in the 60's, it cost a bit but it was to last a long time.

Boxers all had that standard...that blue dye on the fat of the steak, and that taste all meat had, which was purchased from a butcher... YOU didn't get meat that tasted like crap. You didn't get boxers fighting for championships, in the rankings that could not fight well, or that required more seasoning (to extend the analogy). Even with the mob and some of the other situations.

By contrast: Today I can go to a giant grocery and look at 50 types of tomatoes...Have not had a real proper tasting tomato in years...And I can find a god awful tomatoe next to a better one...Today the boxing rankings are the same. We can get a so called champion who is awful and lacks skills much less championship chops, next to a decent fighter.

This is why I like the Lineal boys... Not perfect for sure, but it burns my keister hole to see all the alphabet soup that goes for championship caliber fighting these days.

[Ben Bolt]

Have not had a real proper tasting tomato in years

Funny, just the other day I listened to a radio programme about tomato degeneration. It was very clearifying: today's mass production of tomatoes has made them more tasteless and vastly less nutritious.

I know this is a boxing forum. Still, we want our tomatoes to be tasty and powerful.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Prob with old tomatoes is massive waste as they have such a short shelf life and don't travel well. Same deal with bananas.

We'd get a couple crates of each in and put them in a special cooler covered in plastic bags for quick ripening.

Biggest tomato customers are the burger chains that need a hard tomato for their slicers. What you see in the super is those hard hybrids as supers have small profit margins and hate the massive waste produce has even with all these industrialized hybrids.

"He's a tomato can!"

[billeau2]

Funny, just the other day I listened to a radio programme about tomato degeneration. It was very clearifying: today's mass production of tomatoes has made them more tasteless and vastly less nutritious.

I know this is a boxing forum. Still, we want our tomatoes to be tasty and powerful.

Yeah it just does not have the right taste, or chemistry. Tomatoes make Creole cuisine special because of their properties...so I have to use them, be it I am cooking for my Cajun wife lol, but its just not the same. They should be a fruit. When one bit into a Beefsteak Jersey back in the day, it was more like a fruit than the mealy, slightly sweet crap we get these days... Destroyed the BLT for me...Although I don't eat Bacon these days.

[billeau2]

- -Prob with old tomatoes is massive waste as they have such a short shelf life and don't travel well. Same deal with bananas.

We'd get a couple crates of each in and put them in a special cooler covered in plastic bags for quick ripening.

Biggest tomato customers are the burger chains that need a hard tomato for their slicers. What you see in the super is those hard hybrids as supers have small profit margins and hate the massive waste produce has even with all these industrialized hybrids.

"He's a tomato can!"

Thats true about the slicing variety...they also can be baked nicely IF they have some flavor and are not mealy! That mealiness is the real deal breaker for me, cannot stand it. Makes the tomato as bad as they used to think it was medically!

Also will say this: the other big nightshade, eggplant I can find really nice.

[Ben Bolt]

Just four rounds, a century ago, but boxrec won't let us forget his name.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/835591