Ali vs. Foreman fight -- enlight me, please...

[Rusty Tromboni]

I really don't think

Finally, you say something correct for once!

[Stuart_boxer]

It is a myth that George Foreman was beating Muhammad Ali up, it is also irrelevant on how Zach Clayton scored the fight.

I can remember watching the 'When We Where kings' documentary as a kid. And my perception from viewing that documentary was that Muhammad Ali was basically beaten up for the large majority of the fight. 'It was not until I watched the entire fight, did I realize that the notion that Ali was being beat up by Foreman was a complete myth'.

The fight was a technical master class, on how to fight off the ropes from Muhammad Ali.

Note: Muhammad Ali was a notorious lazy trainer, and anybody who knows anything about is career, will understand that he trained to the level of his opponents or the perceived threat 'He probably viewed Chuck Wepner as a easy fight'. During the 70's even though Muhammad Ali cemented his greatness, people need to remember that he was different fighter in terms of his attitude to the sport. George Foreman struck some fear into him, which motivated him to train etc

Muhammad Ali's extreme self confidence was his strength, but it could also back fire upon him. 'Even Larry Homes stated that he could of trained harder for George Foreman'.

Completely agree, when I saw "When We Were Kings" I didn't know anything about boxing technique and took their word for it that Ali pretty much pulled a Homer Simpson taking a beating until Foreman got tired.

The first two rounds were a complete blowout for Ali, throughout the first four the difference in hand speed was clear. By the time he went to the ropes for a sustained period Foreman had taken a beating in the middle of the ring and threw punches that were intermittently hard.

[smeck]

My criticism is for Zach Clayton mid 50s refereeing two studs after a 2 yr absence....

Nice to hear motormouth Fat Bob Sheridan stumble trying keep up with the action.

True on both counts. George didn't seem to complain much about the referee, and became more gracious toward Ali over the years. He didn't think he got a short count and even pointed to how Ali could've thrown an extra punch but let George simply fall. Still, Zach was not the right man.

I could never figure Colonel Bob or whatever he calls himself. Not an interesting voice, not a particularly astute or interesting color guy, and for the past ten years almost a parody of hack announcers.

I appreciated that the unlikely David Frost remained what he was, a slightly befuddled amateur, asking the others what was going on and who was winning. He was like the casual sports (but not boxing) fan watching at home. He came into his element with the post-fight interview.