Would Marciano be too small for today's heavyweight division ?

[Dr. Z]

Most of the guys who defeated Klitschko were shorter than him one guy was 5’11 ! And Lennox got KO’d by guys 6’1-6’2 if Marciano could beef up to 200 lb he would still be a problem for heavyweights today

Vitali only lost twice in 47 fights and these two losses he was ahead on all three judges score cards without being knocked down. He never got a re-match with any either of them, though he tried to.


No guy under 6 feet ever beat him. Byrd who only won because of the shoulder injury was six feet tall!

Most of the guys who defeated Klitschko were shorter than him one guy was 5’11 !

Really who? That would be nobody.

[Dr. Z]

Starship Trooper is harsh as hell, lol. Is seem that he's looking to "Spread his knowledge higher than the day". So..... What Tyson can reach and hurt, Marciamo can too. Tyson’s more explosive in combinations, somewhat better defensively and faster. Marciano has advantages in chin, patience, conditioning and the big advantage - mental toughness. Sure, size matters allot, but incrementally less as you go up the weight divisions- Absolutely. Height is often made into an advantage too. But standing bodies start off at the ground, insuring that there's going to be something there to hit - and hurt. Dismissal of Marciano outright was a mistake every single time he ever fought.

Yeah, you're right on the movie!

But the way boxing has evolved with super heavy weights using the jab and outfighting well in general. They didn't exist back then, of you disagree list the names please, This puts guy who is shorter ( under 6'1 with a major reach advantage disadvantage landing blows in modern super heavyweights . The bigger heavies these day have much better footwork too which creates a "zoning issue " for the smaller guys. In a sense the big guys and know how to clinch! Size matters now more than it did before at heavyweight. I'm not saying they can't win via KO, I'm saying the odds are stacked against them and literally do not measure up!

Mike Tyson was all time top 15 heavyweight. Agreed? But he was beaten down on points and knocked out two super heavyweights in Douglas and Lewis. The third man he fought with these dimensions was Tony Tucker who probably won the first round, then hurt his hand and lasted the distance.

None of the skilled super heavyweights lost any decisions in their primes. Not Lewis, Klitschko, Klitschko or Fury! Accident? Nope. Bowe lost just one razor thin points match to Holyfield. I heard Evander feels it was a draw in private conversation. Bowe and Holyfeild are friends and I met Bowe before. That's what he said. Think about what I said.

[WillieWild114]

Vitali only lost twice in 47 fights and these two losses he was ahead on all three judges score cards without being knocked down. He never got a re-match with any either of them, though he tried to.


No guy under 6 feet ever beat him. Byrd who only won because of the shoulder injury was six feet tall!

Really who? That would be nobody.

Im talking about Wldamir

[StarshipTrooper]

Starship Trooper is harsh as hell, lol. Is seem that he's looking to "Spread his knowledge higher than the day". So..... What Tyson can reach and hurt, Marciamo can too. Tyson’s more explosive in combinations, somewhat better defensively and faster. Marciano has advantages in chin, patience, conditioning and the big advantage - mental toughness. Sure, size matters allot, but incrementally less as you go up the weight divisions- Absolutely. Height is often made into an advantage too. But standing bodies start off at the ground, insuring that there's going to be something there to hit - and hurt. Dismissal of Marciano outright was a mistake every single time he ever fought.

I don't suffer fools gladly and I've been forced to read that horseshit for the better part of 15 years. It got beyond old, and I got sick of having to make the same arguments over and over again only to have whichever bionic dickhead I was dealing with that day ignore them and just rinse and repeat their inane drivel.

[Ivich]

Most of the guys who defeated Klitschko were shorter than him one guy was 5’11 ! And Lennox got KO’d by guys 6’1-6’2 if Marciano could beef up to 200 lb he would still be a problem for heavyweights today

Rahman is 6ft 2/1/2in,and was 238lbs ie 50lbs heavier than Marciano.
McCall 6ft 2 in 237lbs ie 49lbs heavier than Marciano.
Marciano adding weight would slow down an already not fast man and detract from his stamina.

Why does every Marciano defender produce a hypothetical version of him when he is matched with modern heavies?

There can be only one explanation,they know deep down he would be outsized by modern super heavies !

[JAB5239]

Vitali only lost twice in 47 fights and these two losses he was ahead on all three judges score cards without being knocked down. He never got a re-match with any either of them, though he tried to.


No guy under 6 feet ever beat him. Byrd who only won because of the shoulder injury was six feet tall!

Really who? That would be nobody.

He never tried to get a rematch with Byrd, the same as Wlad never tried to rematch Sanders. They each let the other brother handle what they were not best suited for avoiding these rematches.

[JAB5239]

I don't know if Marciano could turn. The trick, but I refuse to believe Vits couldn't lose to a smaller fighter. Before quitting against Byrd Vits with all his physical advantages only landed eight more punches in that fight and was pushed backwards by Byrd on many occasions. Was he ahead? Yes. But the rounds were closer than the scores indicated in my opinion.

[QueensburyRules]

He never tried to get a rematch with Byrd, the same as Wlad never tried to rematch Sanders. They each let the other brother y andle what they were not best suited for avoiding these rematches.

- - And U been squallin' like a 5 year old tlttybaby having been turned out by his mommy ever since.

Byrd much more intelligent than U club fighter already been 'splained, so Sanders immediately saddled with WBO mandatory went for the richest prize in boxing then, Roy who was taking offers in the first ever $100 mil purse title fight.

Roy returned to LH to whoop Tarver, and Sanders stripped of his WBO took the WBC fight with Vitali who retired Lewie to forever ignominy who was also ducking Sanders.

Hope U minder ain't on strike so as to properly translate /\ into proper swinese for U elucidation...

[JAB5239]

- - And U been squallin' like a 5 year old tlttybaby having been turned out by his mommy ever since.

Byrd much more intelligent than U club fighter already been 'splained, so Sanders immediately saddled with WBO mandatory went for the richest prize in boxing then, Roy who was taking offers in the first ever $100 mil purse title fight.

Roy returned to LH to whoop Tarver, and Sanders stripped of his WBO took the WBC fight with Vitali who retired Lewie to forever ignominy who was also ducking Sanders.

Hope U minder ain't on strike so as to properly translate /\ into proper swinese for U elucidation...

Sanders said in interviews that he always wondered why Wlad never sought a rematch. It's a bit curious Wlad would rematch Byrd, a fighter had had already beaten, but not the guy who put him to sleep and took his title.

As far as Byrd and Vits go....Byrd asked to rematch him but was told no and pressured into fighting Wlad.

Like I said, both brothers took the easy way out of rematching their toughest fights.

And how could Lewis have been ducking Sanders? The ONLY top 10 fighter he ever beat was Wlad and had been knocked out by light hitting Nate Tubbs. Get out of here with you BS and rubbish or provide some proof. Not your opinion you old drunk, but some actual proof.

[QueensburyRules]

Sanders said in interviews that he always wondered why Wlad never sought a rematch. It's a bit curious Wlad would rematch Byrd, a fighter had had already beaten, but not the guy who put him to sleep and took his title.

As far as Byrd and Vits go....Byrd asked to rematch him but was told no and pressured into fighting Wlad.

Like I said, both brothers took the easy way out of rematching their toughest fights.

And how could Lewis have been ducking Sanders? The ONLY top 10 fighter he ever beat was Wlad and had been knocked out by light hitting Nate Tubbs. Get out of here with you BS and rubbish or provide some proof. Not your opinion you old drunk, but some actual proof.

- - Sanders done after Vit to finish out in SA.

I forget what grade U in now.