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  • #11
    I think that the term "Swarmer" being used in more accurate, and I think the drop off of pressure circa 2012 is about correct.

    You look at the 1st Bradley fight and you see large stretches where Pac was not really doing much in the way of throwing punches. I remember several rounds where he spent the first 120-150 seconds very limited in his output, only to come on in the last portion and attack with a flurry.

    I don't think you can be considered a pressure fighter without constantly putting on the pressure.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Julio Cesar Chavez is the prototypical example of a pressure fighter. Constantly pressing forward, cutting off the ring, and wearing down the body.

      Pacquiao is more of a swarmer.
      All swarmers are pressure fighters but not all pressure fighters are swarmers?

      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Ambush fighter instinctively.

      But he can become a pressure fighter when he feels the need 'Or of course has no choice'.
      What is ambush style

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      • #13
        Offensive counter puncher.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
          All swarmers are pressure fighters but not all pressure fighters are swarmers?

          What is ambush style
          I guess it would probably be a good idea to define what all those terms even mean.

          In my case I just don't see Pac as someone who applies constant, suffocating forward pressure. But as someone who likes to move in, attack with a barrage of punches, then move away.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
            All swarmers are pressure fighters but not all pressure fighters are swarmers?

            What is ambush style
            Ambush styled fighter.

            Dance around on the outside, or just out of range then? Basically just launch in with a multi stage attack relentlessly. 'I don't think people can call Pacquiao a boxer puncher because, sometimes he does not really put much emphasis on leading with his jab'.

            There are not many Ambush style fighters currently active in my opinion not at elite level, David Haye at his peak was a ambush styled fighter.

            We are in the era of boxer punchers, or straight up pressure fighters 'But I also don't even think there are many high level pressure fighters, since the retirement of Ricky Hatton/Antonio Margarito their numbers have decreased.

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            • #16
              Depends who's he's fighting what weight. Seems like he tried to pressure Marquez and it back fired on him in that fight. Ironically the only fight he was ever clearly winning until he got KTFO cold. Seems to me he went to more of a boxing style darting invand out but against Thurman he added another layer by using his movement to create odd angles to punch from. He dose pressure but it's not sustainable as he is willing to give up space coming forward to create more angles by go to the side or even back up to create better punching angles then just pressuring to be on the inside like say Arrrola. Let's face it easyier to walk forward through Small fighters then young WW. Manny pressure at this point is his punch combos wheater he coming goward or on the outside look at the body shot against Thurman in the 10 th

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              • #17
                He can do it all. He’s been a boxer, has been a swarmer, has been a technical pressure fighter and now he’s just a small boxer puncher.

                Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post
                I think that the term "Swarmer" being used in more accurate, and I think the drop off of pressure circa 2012 is about correct.

                You look at the 1st Bradley fight and you see large stretches where Pac was not really doing much in the way of throwing punches. I remember several rounds where he spent the first 120-150 seconds very limited in his output, only to come on in the last portion and attack with a flurry.

                I don't think you can be considered a pressure fighter without constantly putting on the pressure.
                That Bradley fight was when Pacquiao was complacent. His training was becoming lazier and he was all but ignoring Ariza’s training (marquez IV, did zilch S&C)

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

                  You look at the 1st Bradley fight and you see large stretches where Pac was not really doing much in the way of throwing punches. I remember several rounds where he spent the first 120-150 seconds very limited in his output, only to come on in the last portion and attack with a flurry.

                  I don't think you can be considered a pressure fighter without constantly putting on the pressure.
                  - -Hence I mentioned he evolved into just about every good attribute a great fighter can possibly possess.

                  Now as to Bradley, an early exchange put the bigger, stronger, younger fighter on the run for most of the fight.

                  Why should an elderly Senator/part time fighter have to out run such a matchup?

                  As it was Manny knocked him loose from his ankle ligaments such that poor Timmy was reduced to a wheelchair in the post fight robbery presser.

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                  • #19
                    Your limited in intelligence!

                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                    - -cuts the ring off just fine when needed, and yeah, always in his range darting around with flashing punches at odd angles, his pressure unique to his one off talents. Has been seamlessly melding boxing nuance and strategy into his style since Freddie got him, one of the all time duos in boxing.

                    Might as well ask is he a boxer or puncher or jabber because singularly all are true just as your ? is equally limited in scope.
                    HEY QUEeNY, I've been looking over many of your posts and it seems your always either making fun of others or talking down to or demeaning to them, what's your problem, why don't you just stick to boxing comments only and try being nicer to everyone instead of a jackazz!

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                    • #20
                      No, he is not.


                      An overwhelming fighter more often than not, he can box and is sneaky. His defense often gets overlooked.


                      Effective aggression. He can be figured out (any fighter can) but you will not have an easy time even in his advanced age/long career.






                      Very special fighter.

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