Best P4P relative athletic attributes

[OctoberRed]

The Stanley Steamer of Ketchel was greatly feared in its day.

Yes indeed.

[Luccio]

So the term Pound for Pound originated as a way to give credit to non-heavyweight fighters as being relatively as good of fighters to their weight class- as the heavyweight champ being the biggest was accepted as being the best fighter in the world.
We all know this so I hope it doesnt become a point of semantic contention.Since then, P4P has evolved to mean more 'relative to ones weight class'.

So running with this second definition, I was wondering who everyone here felt were the best P4P fighters based on specific attributes? Who was the fastest p4p fighter of all time (was Ali's speed relative to the heavyweight division faster than say SRL relative to Welter)?

To keep it on point, I will narrow it down to only a few P4P criteria: Speed, Strength, Stamina, Hardest Hitting.

Speed? Meldrick Taylor

- -Originally p4p meant if weights were equalized, who be the best?

That would subjectively encapsulate who dominated the best fighters and showed the most elite skills and natural athletic attributes, ie SRRobby.

Now as to who is the traditional best athlete, ie the decathlete, that would be Wlad. Best stamina, Vitali in the mix along with Sal Sanchez.

Best strength would be Valuev.

Hardest hitting usually goes to Big George or Shavers, but none I mentioned woulda been thought as P4P save Wlad.

Young macho camacho so fast he made SRLeonard blush.

Manny fought, beat, and KOed the most Ring p4pers is your p4p answer.

- -Wrote an article June 11, 2011 about the history of the p4p concept as I looked at the p4p histories of Floyd and Manny to settle that controversy.

Using Rings annual ratings Manny was 6-1-1, 5 KO and Floyd 4-0, 2 KO. Moreover, Manny made his divisional debut against against the #1 twice and would've been Thrice but for Barrera turning down the rematch that they fought at a later date. Floyd never fought #1 for a divisional debut.

Manny has since doubled his p4p totals whereas Floyd barely moved.

The cherry is Manny consecutively ranked in Ring p4p ratings for 12+ years, a record that can't be broken since nobody is even close to it in the history of those ratings.

Manny still in boxrec p4p.

So who do you think was the strongest P4P, maybe a Duran?

- -P4P based on results presumably with a healthy mix of bigger, stronger opponents, ie Pak.

So today the multi division hoppers are exhaulted over all others save the stint Wlad had as he was becoming a record setter.

Not to hijack. But we talk about guys like Ali, Camacho, Taylor and Khan... but Robinson's hands were as fast, and could put you to sleep.

He was as much a Mugabi as he was a Taylor. He was as much a Wilder was he was an Ali.


I kinda like Gomez for his completeness of physical talents. Maybe fighters in earlier eras exceeded him. But I think he's a good starting point.

only our queenbee would select Valuev for "strength" when Valuev has gigaintism? If that is not Polish I don't know what is.

this is an easy question to answer objectively.

these are the 6 tbe fighters.
p4p the fastest strongest most skillful and all around best fighting machines of all time.

1.Chayaphon Moonsri
2.Samson Dutch Boy Gym
3.Joe Calzaghe
4.Sven Ottke
5.Rocky Marciano
6.Floyd Mayweather Jr

[Luccio]

Yes indeed.

you know danny williams is on one hell of a winning streak?
he beat an undefeated contender and everything.....

[Anthony342]

this is an easy question to answer objectively.

these are the 6 tbe fighters.
p4p the fastest strongest most skillful and all around best fighting machines of all time.

1.Chayaphon Moonsri
2.Samson Dutch Boy Gym
3.Joe Calzaghe
4.Sven Ottke
5.Rocky Marciano
6.Floyd Mayweather Jr

Man, you're crazy. Floyd should be at 1, it's so obvious.

[Luccio]

Man, you're crazy. Floyd should be at 1, it's so obvious.

floyds good, but he ain't THAT good bro... 👍😃

[Anthony342]

floyds good, but he ain't THAT good bro... ����

Oh, come on now lol.

[Luccio]

oh, come on now lol.

😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

[QueensburyRules]

- -Sven would be too big and strong for Floydy.

[Luccio]

- -Sven would be too big and strong for Floydy.

some racist guy called larryx gave me red k for saying calzaghe was to big and strong for floyd bumwether 😂

[Luccio]

LIST UPDATE


SUPER CHAMPION OF TBE. Edwin Valero

1.Chayaphon Moonsri
2.Samson Dutch Boy Gym
3.Joe Calzaghe
4.Sven Ottke
5.Rocky Marciano
6.Floyd Mayweather Jr