gerald mccellen back to back losses

[billeau2]

- -Ok, plagiarizing Leffy is it?

Sweet!

Just another conspiracy right kiddo? Leffy works for the gobermint!! and I am his Roger Stone!

[The Old LefHook]

McClellan got exactly what he deserved. He used to buy puppies at the local pet shop and put them in with his fighting dogs to eat. He was scum, and overrated as a fighter besides. He flat could not handle Benn, with a million punches sailing over the limey's ducking head. McClellan never did figure it out. He got headbutted to death, but he could not beat the man anyway, that was quite apparent. After following boxing for more than 50 years, I have seen untold numbers of impressive sluggers go on a noted run only to be slapped silly when they finally met someone who knew what they were doing. That is one of the more common phenomena in boxing, which occurs over and over again. McClellan did not even know what a straight right looked like. He threw all loopers. Overrated.

[LITTLE JOE]

- -Need to take more care with what you post.

Verbatim. Right back atcha !

[LITTLE JOE]

- - is it dog abuse to pit vicious breeds bred to fight and kill their own kind to death for 400 yrs or more?

All while living in the most war and killing loving nation of the 3rd millennium if your American.

Do you understand how many free range pit bulls I've run off after charging me because the dog shelter here has adopted a zero kill/retrain abused, abandoned pits grown too vicious for the unfortunates needing extra machismo that they lack.

My neighborhhood has a lot of mothers and children in it, and now at night coyotes have followed our greenbelt up from the river and are taking any cats and dogs they find for breakfast.

The New World Order as viscous as it gets.

Valid point on the free range pit bulls. Too many people think owning a pit bull will give them the appearance of being a bad ass which they are not. Skeptical on your claim that you have run off pit bulls after they charged you though.

[QueensburyRules]

- -I don't keep count son, but uncounted dozens of general dogs when I used to run in my 40 acre park. I'd run em back to their shameless owners to ****** to know how to socialize a dog.

Prob a dozen specific pits that put up a bigger tussle until they figure out what I'm gonna do to them.

[stefjonno1]

Me and my friend just about went to the Benn/MCcellan fight. Cant remember why we opted out, but I am glad we did. Although by all accounts G man was a nasty guy it's still a shame what happened to him.

We went to benn's next fight, well I think it was his next fight cant remember, it was on the Bruno MCcall undercard at Wembley. I think the guys name was Danny perez or something. Wembley was jumping that night after the Bruno win.

[Mugwump]

McClellan is a classic example of a fighter who was criminally over-hyped because of his ferocious punching power.

With him there was Plan A, followed by more Plan A and just for the sake of balance - Plan A.

I agree that the seeds of his destruction were largely sown during the Jackson fight. But let's not kid ourselves here because Gerald was never going to last long in a division which has always possessed more than its fair share of big hitters.

His defence amounted to little more than blocking punches with his head (a tactic also employed by Rid**** Bowe). I guess the G-Man figured he didn't need much of a defence since few opponents could last longer than a couple of rounds against him. But as any experienced fighter knows only too well, once you get to the very top-tier of boxing you are always going to run into guys with elite-level chins.

If he possessed a jab he hardly ever put it to good use. No uppercut (which, to their credit, Nigel Benn's trainers spotted and leveraged this weakness to the maxiumum benefit). Was either unable or unwilling to slip punches. Very little variation of angles and often seemed to move in and out of engagement as though he were on train tracks.

Under normal circumstances possessing a tough chin and plenty of courage (as McClellan surely did) is highly desirable. But coupled with explosive power, poor fight management skills and near total ignorance of defensive artistry it's a recipe for disaster. Against Jackson and Benn it resulted in him spending far too much time trading punches with two of the biggest hitters of the past few decades when he should have been picking his shots, retreating behind a solid guard and stealing the rounds.

Sure, he beat Jackson. But in doing so he accumulated more damage than the average fighter accrues in half-a-dozen tough bouts. Ironically knocking Benn down early worked against him because he was encouraged to stand and trade (all the while getting hit flush, often and hard) for the rest of the bout thinking (mistakenly) that victory was only one more big punch away.

I lot of blame must be heaped on Gerald's trainers for fashioning him into such a hopelessly incomplete fighter. It was only a matter of time before he suffered a serious injury which is a pity because with the right instruction from an early age he could have reigned supreme for many years.

[billeau2]

McClellan is a classic example of a fighter who was criminally over-hyped because of his ferocious punching power.

With him there was Plan A, followed by more Plan A and just for the sake of balance - Plan A.

I agree that the seeds of his destruction were largely sown during the Jackson fight. But let's not kid ourselves here because Gerald was never going to last long in a division which has always possessed more than its fair share of big hitters.

His defence amounted to little more than blocking punches with his head (a tactic also employed by Rid**** Bowe). I guess the G-Man figured he didn't need much of a defence since few opponents could last longer than a couple of rounds against him. But as any experienced fighter knows only too well, once you get to the very top-tier of boxing you are always going to run into guys with elite-level chins.

If he possessed a jab he hardly ever put it to good use. No uppercut (which, to their credit, Nigel Benn's trainers spotted and leveraged this weakness to the maxiumum benefit). Was either unable or unwilling to slip punches. Very little variation of angles and often seemed to move in and out of engagement as though he were on train tracks.

Under normal circumstances possessing a tough chin and plenty of courage (as McClellan surely did) is highly desirable. But coupled with explosive power, poor fight management skills and near total ignorance of defensive artistry it's a recipe for disaster. Against Jackson and Benn it resulted in him spending far too much time trading punches with two of the biggest hitters of the past few decades when he should have been picking his shots, retreating behind a solid guard and stealing the rounds.

Sure, he beat Jackson. But in doing so he accumulated more damage than the average fighter accrues in half-a-dozen tough bouts. Ironically knocking Benn down early worked against him because he was encouraged to stand and trade (all the while getting hit flush, often and hard) for the rest of the bout thinking (mistakenly) that victory was only one more big punch away.

I lot of blame must be heaped on Gerald's trainers for fashioning him into such a hopelessly incomplete fighter. It was only a matter of time before he suffered a serious injury which is a pity because with the right instruction from an early age he could have reigned supreme for many years.

I don't know Mugs... Thing is, I always feel with Gerald...Mind you, I am not talking about his cruelty which indeed, served him right...Nobody has a right to do what he did with our companion species. BUT I always feel like its a case of perfect foresight. I mean at that time you had guys who were ****ers in the division, Benn, Jackson, Gerald and of course Eubank... it was that kind of division. They all traded, and fought in a "take no prisoners" fashion. Nobody was a defensive wizard lol.

[PRINCEKOOL]

- -I don't keep count son, but uncounted dozens of general dogs when I used to run in my 40 acre park. I'd run em back to their shameless owners to ****** to know how to socialize a dog.

Prob a dozen specific pits that put up a bigger tussle until they figure out what I'm gonna do to them.

Reminds me of a story from David Haye's autobiography. When his training camp was stationed within Turkey on a giant complex, which housed a gym and running track and apartments. On one particular occasion as 'Team Haye' where arriving back from a evening meal.

The guards dogs who where left to roam the entire complex at night freely, for some reason? where out of their daytime enclosure 'And where alerted by Team Hayemaker'! I am not sure what breed of dogs they where but, people within Haye's entourage where afraid.

'David Haye proceeded to run at the dogs full speed, and I believe they ran off'....He then stated to his entourage? 'I love running at aggressive/wild dogs like that' while Adam Booth and the rest just stood the relieved and bewildered by this man.

This was during his training camp for the first Kiltschko fight which was postponed 'I enjoyed that short story, because it showed a insight into the character of David Haye'.

[Mugwump]

I don't know Mugs... Thing is, I always feel with Gerald...Mind you, I am not talking about his cruelty which indeed, served him right...Nobody has a right to do what he did with our companion species. BUT I always feel like its a case of perfect foresight. I mean at that time you had guys who were ****ers in the division, Benn, Jackson, Gerald and of course Eubank... it was that kind of division. They all traded, and fought in a "take no prisoners" fashion. Nobody was a defensive wizard lol.

Well ... yes. But there's flawed or weak defence and there's *NO* defence.

Take Benn for instance. Whilst he never shied away from "a tear up" and particularly during his early career he was prone to risk-taking to the point of recklessness - beneath the surface he was technically competent with a solid amateur career behind him during which he was well-coached.

Fight fans didn't really see evidence of this until he picked up a couple of defeats (as well as some lucky escapes ... such as the Anthony Logan fight) and moved up a weight.

As a middleweight Benn's power was as explosive as anyone's I've seen but when he moved up to fight bigger guys he could no longer rely on one-punch KOs and he had to modify his game. It was at this point that he fell back on the skills he learned as an amateur and he became a much more balanced fighter.

One of my major bugbears with today's fighters is their lack of head movement. Nothing depresses me more than seeing a supposedly P4P-level boxer fighting as though his head is bolted into one of those steel frames victims of broken necks have to wear. If you aren't moving your head you've made your opponent's task ten times easier - at the very least.

If you want a great example of the benefits of head movement watch Benn's performance against McClellan. Sure, he was tagged and put down twice. But Benn's evasive tactics swaying to-and-fro in huge arcs made the G-Man's task of finishing the fight impossible. Just watch that fight again. For me it's a peerless example of the kind of defence which Gerald lacked completely. For just about all of the fight Benn kept his head low forcing McClellan to hit down at an angle he was uncomfortable with. He had figured (correctly) that his opponent lacked the obvious counterpunch - the uppercut - and this gave him freedom to launch himself upward with single or one-two bombs which were landing flush seemingly at will.

Eubank was a far more cagey fighter who worked behind a solid guard and preferred to catch opponents with clever counters. The thing about Eubank is that he was a far harder hitter than people give credit. Indeed, at Super Middle I think he may well have possessed greater one-punch power than Benn himself. Certainly the shot he caught Michael Watson with was (tragically) a hammer.

I guess what I'm saying is that none of the names you listed were as flawed as the G-Man. The guy was a brain-haemorrhage waiting to happen, unfortunately.