Why Jack Johnson is Not as Great as You We’re Told

[Eff Pandas]

I've seen all available footage.

And how many fights is that?

I don't keep track with old fight films like that so despite your cute response it was a legit question.

And I know that you're refusing to because you know the hype that you've bought into will come crashing down when confronted by hard evidence.

I've watched enough old timey footage to know boxing was different in different eras. And those old timey guys are damn near competing in another sport if you ask me.

I got no ego in this. I'm no Jack Johnson fanboy or anything close to that. I just don't appreciate mfers dogging old timey fighters with this bs atg silliness.

[Zmerai Khan]

And how many fights is that?

I don't keep track with old fight films like that so despite your cute response it was a legit question.



I've watched enough old timey footage to know boxing was different in different eras. And those old timey guys are damn near competing in another sport if you ask me.

I got no ego in this. I'm no Jack Johnson fanboy or anything close to that. I just don't appreciate mfers dogging old timey fighters with this bs atg silliness.

Then what 5he fcuk are you on about. It sounds like you're just lonely and need someone to talk to.


Watch Billy Conn and Tommy Loughran. Tell me what Jack Johnson does better than them.


Besides dodge dangerous opponents.

[Eff Pandas]

Then what 5he fcuk are you on about. It sounds like you're just lonely and need someone to talk to.

It sounds like you can't answer basic questions about this subject.

[GhostofDempsey]

Jack "Chappie" Blackburn was another of the old-time black fighters who Johnson avoided. Particularly after getting schooled by Blackburn in a sparring match. Here is an interesting expert from an article I found:

The bad blood between Blackburn and Johnson was first spilled in 1908. Johnson had issued an open challenge for a sparring session in a Philadelphia gym, an offer that Blackburn had taken the soon-to-be champion up on, leaving a crimson stream pouring from Johnson’s nose and tarnishing that “golden smile” so reviled by the author of White Fang and Call of the Wild. On December 30th, four days after Johnson’s victory over Tommy Burns, the poker game Blackburn played with his older brother Fred, who had insulted Jack’s white common-law wife Maud Pillian, had devolved into a heated altercation. Fred slashed Jack’s face with a knife, resulting in the jagged semi-circular scar raising the flesh from beside his left eye to just below the bottom lip. Only two weeks later, the intervention of Blackburn and his friend Alonzo Polk only threw fuel onto the fire of an argument between Maud and Polk’s wife Matilda.

Jack shot Polk to death, once each in the neck and stomach, and reportedly struck Matilda in the back as she attempted to flee the scene, though she survived. Maud also caught an errant bullet during the pandemonium. Some accounts erroneously attribute a triple murder to Blackburn, suggesting a tangled web of lustful deceit which may or may not have been the case. What is certain is that, having been sentenced to 15 years for manslaughter, Blackburn appealed to Booker T. Washington, Sam Langford, and new world champion Jack Johnson for legal assistance and moral support. While Langford and Washington did what they could, Johnson-still mindful of the embarrassing beating suffered at Blackburn’s hands-is said to have replied, “Let the sonofa***** stay in jail.”

[HOUDINI563]

Bull****.

In 1908 Johnson was at the top of his game and became hwt champion of the world scaling just below 200 pounds. In 1908 Blackburn was fighting as a 147 pound welterweight. Any punch at any time from Johnson would end the fight.

[OctoberRed]

Bull****.

In 1908 Johnson was at the top of his game and became hwt champion of the world scaling just below 200 pounds. In 1908 Blackburn was fighting as a 147 pound welterweight. Any punch at any time from Johnson would end the fight.

^^^^^^This.

[GhostofDempsey]

Bull****.

In 1908 Johnson was at the top of his game and became hwt champion of the world scaling just below 200 pounds. In 1908 Blackburn was fighting as a 147 pound welterweight. Any punch at any time from Johnson would end the fight.

Blackburn fought Langford six times, only losing once. He schooled Johnson in sparring. He fought much better opposition than Johnson and as you can see from Johnson’s resume he liked fighting the little guys, unless of course they posed a legit threat. Blackburn would have posed a legit threat.

[HOUDINI563]

Again. Complete bull****. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[The Old LefHook]

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If she beats you I am sure you must deserve it. Say, is she an extra large woman? We have been looking for an enforcer around here. Would you consider filming some of her violence for us? Even some highlights would be fine.

[Anthony342]

If she beats you I am sure you must deserve it. Say, is she an extra large woman? We have been looking for an enforcer around here. Would you consider filming some of her violence for us? Even some highlights would be fine.

I hear tell from a mutual friend named Jamie that she's about a size 14 and is reliable when it comes to helping with loading stuff into a van.