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  • #51
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    So he didn't lose to the two best fighters he ever faced? And are you saying there is no chance he juiced as a professional?
    --- they were technical losses and the only two of his career.

    The first bad decision by his AMA team way ahead on the cards. The second on a fluke cuts exacerbated by dirty Lewis tricks allowed by ref. Ahead on points with Lewie staggering back to his corner so drunk they had to pull the stool over to where he was falling. Lewis gave up his belt and biggest payday to retire prematurely.

    How many losses did Ali take?

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    • #52
      Vitalis response vs Byrd after his corner asked him if he was sure he wanted to quit...."Yes it hurts too much". Vitali nor his brother has the mentality of an ATG.

      It was Vitali NOT Lewis that was out on his feet at the end of the final round. A right hook to the temple staggered Vitali into Lewis across the ring. A right uppercut nearly took Vitalis head off at the bell. WAtch the fight!

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      • #53
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
        --- they were technical losses and the only two of his career.

        The first bad decision by his AMA team way ahead on the cards. The second on a fluke cuts exacerbated by dirty Lewis tricks allowed by ref. Ahead on points with Lewie staggering back to his corner so drunk they had to pull the stool over to where he was falling. Lewis gave up his belt and biggest payday to retire prematurely.

        How many losses did Ali take?
        Ali beat the best fighters he faced. And rematched when he lost. Vits losses we're by stoppave and qiut job. Nothing technical about that. But do tell these dirty tricks of Lewis. Since when is punching a guy in the face a dirty tricks in boxing?

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        • #54
          --- Flagrant rules violations, pulling the fighter head down for uppercuts that Lewis was an expert at and then bulling him to the ropes to pin him heavily rubbing his deadlocks into vitalis eye cuts.

          Perfectly legal dirty trick after Lewis ignored 2 previous court orders to fight Vit, he lured him to LA to replace Tyson who pulled out of the undercard with three weeks before the Johnson fight.

          Johnson pulled out a week later, so Vit got his Lewis fight with only 3 weeks of training where as Lewis had been training 3 months.

          Lewis avoided legit southpaw contenders like Byrd and Sanders. No matter, Vit lost two piffling battles but the Ks won the war... End of...

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          • #55
            For two brothers to make the bottom 10 AT is an awesome achievement Closer than the same town--the same womb.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              --- Flagrant rules violations, pulling the fighter head down for uppercuts that Lewis was an expert at and then bulling him to the ropes to pin him heavily rubbing his deadlocks into vitalis eye cuts.

              Perfectly legal dirty trick after Lewis ignored 2 previous court orders to fight Vit, he lured him to LA to replace Tyson who pulled out of the undercard with three weeks before the Johnson fight.

              Johnson pulled out a week later, so Vit got his Lewis fight with only 3 weeks of training where as Lewis had been training 3 months.

              Lewis avoided legit southpaw contenders like Byrd and Sanders. No matter, Vit lost two piffling battles but the Ks won the war... End of...
              Rubbing his dreads in Vits eyes? Lmao!! Please show the video to support this. Maybe Lewis should have shaved his head to make it more fair for VK.

              And both Lewis and Vits were in trading for a fighter when Johnson dropped out because of injury. It's not like Lennox flew him half way around the world on ten days notice and quit in front of his own fans, is it?

              And let's not go pointing out fighters avoided. You've posted Byrd, who there was absolutely no interest in, and Sanders, who never beat a top 10 fighter before or after Wlad. Your memory needs a little work there soon.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Rubbing his dreads in Vits eyes? Lmao!! Please show the video to support this. Maybe Lewis should have shaved his head to make it more fair for VK.

                And both Lewis and Vits were in trading for a fighter when Johnson dropped out because of injury. It's not like Lennox flew him half way around the world on ten days notice and quit in front of his own fans, is it?

                And let's not go pointing out fighters avoided. You've posted Byrd, who there was absolutely no interest in, and Sanders, who never beat a top 10 fighter before or after Wlad. Your memory needs a little work there soon.
                --- Your memory needs a spritzer of Dr Pepper.

                Don't need to provide it when you can go down to the super.

                Sanders was ducked as were the Ks in their beginning. Sanders had rugby and golf to fall back on.

                I liked Lewis, but he turned out to be a pretentious intellectual bore wannabe and punked out of boxing like a lamb.

                Most of the Ks opponents would beat Ali's save the greats. None of the greats wanted to fight the Ks, something you can never live down as a neutered sore loser.

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                • #58
                  So you make a thread calling for debate and you then proceed to name everyone that disagrees with you a half-wit?

                  Why would I expect more from this embroiled sausage of a poster... Utter imbecile.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                    Vitalis response vs Byrd after his corner asked him if he was sure he wanted to quit...."Yes it hurts too much". Vitali nor his brother has the mentality of an ATG.
                    Holyfield's response vs Williams after his corner asked him if he was sure he wanted to quit… "I got blood in my eye, I can't see out of the left eye".

                    Two questions:
                    Who do you think suffered the worse injury, Vitali or Evander?
                    … and does Holyfield's quit job against Williams mean, that he also doesn't have the mentality of an ATG?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Bundana View Post
                      Holyfield's response vs Williams after his corner asked him if he was sure he wanted to quit… "I got blood in my eye, I can't see out of the left eye".

                      Two questions:
                      Who do you think suffered the worse injury, Vitali or Evander?
                      … and does Holyfield's quit job against Williams mean, that he also doesn't have the mentality of an ATG?
                      Same for Duran. Quitting because of pain in the gut, so he cannot be an ATG either according to HOUDINI563.

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