Michael Spinks vs Cleveland Williams

[OctoberRed]

i think the fight is a toss up really, if I had a gun to my head I'd probably take Cleveland Williams.
I think it was Mike Quarry who Bob Foster fought.
Jerry Quarry defeated the legendary Mac Foster

Damn right. That why I always roll with Clemenza.

[Anthony342]

Damn right. That why I always roll with Clemenza.

I would too. If Don Corleone can trust him, why not us?

[clemenza]

That's right Anthony, like Tom Hagen said, I always thought it would've been Clemenza who betrayed the family, and Michael says Tessio was always smarter.

[GhostofDempsey]

The version of Williams prior to his gunshot wounds and removal of some of his intestines I would slightly favor over Spinks. Foreman called Williams one do the biggest punchers he ever knew. At his peak he was quick on his feet and could really ****. Yes, Spinks held his own with Holmes but he also crumbled like a house of cards against Tyson. Not sure Spinks would have handled Williams tenacity and aggression.

[The Old LefHook]

Well remember, Williams was KO'd by 176 pound Bob Satterfield. Satterfield was a hard puncher, but he was only a pound above the LHW limit. Spinks would be 208 pounds with more skill than Satterfield and likely an equal or greater hitter than Satterfield given the extra weight behind his punch and the fact that at 175 he was already an ATG puncher.

I do not believe Spinks was an ATG puncher. ATG fighter, yes. Good puncher. No Foster for impact IMO

[uncle ben]

Humm.... Nah. You guys are trying to sell this... You are starting with the assumption that there is not a valid reason why "most people would take spinks" in this fight. You had me going with the holmes talk as well. But i am not buying it.

Williams didn't have anything on Spinks that Spinks could not handle. One mark of a great light heavy/cruiser is that they can go up and handle the good fighters in the heavyweight division, when there is low hanging fruit, and Williams was the definition of good to excellent. Strong, good reach, good chin, stamina, but not with the skill of a premier boxer puncher like Spinks. Heres an analogy: It would be like when Bob Foster mossied on up to fight Quarry.

Yeah, I actually think Michael Spinks would out box and stop Williams, unless Williams landed some big shot. Remember, Williams fought in an era of 185 pound HW's and still failed to dominate. So beating an ATG light heavy bulked up to 200+ pounds is not a foregone conclusion for Williams.

[uncle ben]

I do not believe Spinks was an ATG puncher. ATG fighter, yes. Good puncher. No Foster for impact IMO

Spinks at LHW had legit one punch power. His KO of Marvin Johnson was every bit as frightening as Foster's KO of Mike Quarry.

[Anthony342]

That's right Anthony, like Tom Hagen said, I always thought it would've been Clemenza who betrayed the family, and Michael says Tessio was always smarter.

Yeah too bad Richard Castellano had to ask for final approval of his lines. That caused him to be written out of Godfather 2 and killed off in between movies.

[Rockin']

I think Williams would just be too strong for Spinks.

[clemenza]

Frank Pantangle was almost up par with clemenza in part 2
Lets hitem now mike why we got the muscle