Why is George Foreman rated so highly on a lot of peoples lists?

[brownpimp88]

"worst era of heavyweight boxing" you said. In my opinion an era of boxing does not only enclude title bouts.

And if you compare fighters of different eras (what is it we do in this thread) you have to evaluate all their fights, not only their title bouts IMO. Or do you think it is fair to evaluate e.g. Max Schmeling only on his loss to Louis in '38 excluding the fight they had two years before ?

The 1990's was better than that era, the 80's had tyson and holmes and they are better than any champ from that era. Rocky marciano's era was better, joe louis's era from 1937-1948 was better. Jack Johnson-jim jeffries era was better too.

[Friedie]

The 1990's was better than that era, the 80's had tyson and holmes and they are better than any champ from that era. Rocky marciano's era was better, joe louis's era from 1937-1948 was better. Jack Johnson-jim jeffries era was better too.

that doesn't answer my question....

anyway my opinion differs here.
(b.t.w. I wouldn't define an era of sports from 1924 to 1936.)

[brownpimp88]

that doesn't answer my question....

anyway my opinion differs here.
(b.t.w. I wouldn't define an era of sports from 1924 to 1936.)

Schemling is not considered as a great champ, niether is Sharkey or Baer. Braddock and Carnera were horrible, Tunney didnt do much at heavyweight anyways, his main acomplishments were at 175.

[Friedie]

Schemling is not considered as a great champ, niether is Sharkey or Baer. Braddock and Carnera were horrible, Tunney didnt do much at heavyweight anyways, his main acomplishments were at 175.

who is Schemling ?

Max Schmeling was a great Champ IMO. He won the tile by a foul (that's not his fault) but then was the first fighter to stop Young Stribling after about 300 fights and than was robbed badly against Jack Sharkey.

If not for political and money reasons he would have been the first Heavyweight to regain the title. He qualyfied for the titlefight against Jimmy Braddock by knocking out Joe Louis. What could a boxer do more in Heavyweight History to earn a title shot ?

[brownpimp88]

who is Schemling ?

Max Schmeling was a great Champ IMO. He won the tile by a foul but then was the first to stop Young Stribling and than was robbed against Sharkey.

If not for political and money reasons he would have been the first Heavyweight to regain the title. He qualyfied for the titlefight against Jimmy Braddock by knocking out Joe Louis. What could a boxer do more in Heavyweight History to earn a title shot ?

He was a good fighter but, not a great one. There is a huge difference in those words.

[Friedie]

He was a good fighter but, not a great one. There is a huge difference in those words.

Many experts rate him as an ATG Heavyweight (somewhere between 10 and 20).
I think that's realistic too and consider that great (if you consider the timespan of over 120 years of Heavyweight history).

[brownpimp88]

The maximum i would place him is #15, anything higher than that is simply overrating him.

[Friedie]

The maximum i would place him is #15, anything higher than that is simply overrating him.

yes, agreed ....that sounds realistic to me too.
(I rate him #12 ...but I'm a bit biased cause I'm german

As I said before, after over 120 years of Heavyweight History I consider the best 20 fighters all as ATG Heavyweights. It's a matter of definition I guess.

[ROSEWOOD]

I believe Foreman and Frazier both rack high because neither had what one would call true boxing skill...These dudes just destroy everything in front of them..He is an all-time great but where i personally would rank him is still unclear..

[butterfly1964]

I believe Foreman and Frazier both rack high because neither had what one would call true boxing skill...These dudes just destroy everything in front of them..He is an all-time great but where i personally would rank him is still unclear..

They had more boxing skill that most people think.