Flashback...Roid Jones, Jr: The Steroid Scandal

[Mugwump]

I should also say that it's now within the realms of possibility to genetically engineer certain traits in a person. Various nations are already exploring the possibility of enhanced "Super Soldiers". Where the rights of the individual stand in all of this is an unsettling question given that these are proprietary technologies owned by corporations. I'm not an expert in the effectiveness of genetic enhancement in human adults. And as I've already mentioned - such would throw up complicated legal issues over who retains ownership once the soldier completes his tour(s) of duty. I'm not sure it's even possible to "switch off" these attributes.

IMO, once they go down this road (and they will!) the likelihood is that they will insert new genetic code before conception. Which throws open a slew of pretty uncomfortable consequences that probably don't bear thinking about.

But what happens in the military soon percolates into the private sector. Ask yourself the question: if Nike, or Adidas could invest a few hundred million in a handful of "super athletes" bred from birth whose performance would outstrip anything we've seen from athletes using the best quality anabolic steroids - would they do it given the millions ... nay ... billions which are made out of elite level athletes today such as Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Tom Brady, Lewis Hamilton, Ronaldo, Lionel Messi etc. etc.?? And would they give a moment's consideration to the moral and ethical questions raised by such a decision? I think I know where my money would go.

[QueensburyRules]

...continued;

Crime and Punishment?

The IBF was a different story. According to IBF President Marian Muhammad in 2003;

MM: What we do is in whatever jurisdiction we sanction a fight the promoter is obliged to get drug testing. The doctor, whomever the state assigns as the doctor, the promoter has to pay him and the laboratory for the drug tests, whether the state has a law or not, because it's one of our rules. That's how we went through all of this in Indiana, because they don't have any drug testing.

Under the rules & regulations of the IBF, Roid was required to submit a B sample for further analysis, and should've been punished if he didn't. Muhammad basically admitted that a failed B sample would result in Roid being stripped;

BRC: I realize that you were not the president of the IBF when this fight took place, so I hope this is not an unfair question. But, was the IBF supposed to have acted on those positive tests?

MM: To the best of my knowledge, yes.

BRC: Should the organization have done something?

MM: The[IBF] rules state that if he[Roid] tested positive the second portion of the specimen should have been sent to a lab of his choice and the local Commission for testing, and if that specimen came back positive, then that could be grounds for vacation of the title.

However, Roid refused to even submit a B sample and therefore surely should've been stripped of his IBF title and publicly shamed.

Yet the IBF - the most corrupt governing body of the 90's who's president was imprisoned for said corruption - did nothing.

???

If Roid was clean, one would assume he'd willingly submit his B sample for testing in order to reveal what caused the 6:1 T:E result, if only to clear his name.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why he didn't.

Which brings us to Jacob Hall's farcical "why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid?" stance, which incredibly seemed to work with the IBF, who failed to enforce their own rules and somehow let Roid escape punishment, officially at least; they only managed to send Roid a half-hearted request for the B sample results 3 months after the first test, then forgot about it altogether.

WOW.

Talk about a cover-up.

...That Roid failed the first time he was ever tested as a pro speaks for itself.

And true to form, in refusing to submit a B sample to uncover the truth, *****-for-brains Roid convicted himself with his own actions.

Scandalously, he got away with it...almost.

Note: Richard Hall also tested a whopping 10x over the normal limit (all boxers on the card were tested). In his defense, via his attorney - and in stark contrast to Roid Jones' actions - Hall requested a B sample tested in response to the IBF's letter regarding the failed test. However, the IBF oddly claimed to only test the bout's winner, and the Indiana commission stated they didn't have the authority.

Ironically, it wasn't even Roid's IBF title to begin with; he was merely keeping it warm for the true world light-heavyweight king and rightful IBF titlist Dariusz Michalczewski who was unfairly forced to relinquish the title weeks after he won it in Jun 1997.

All in all, this was yet another scandal which again highlights just how much Roid Jones, Jr got away with during his farcical prime years. He dragged the sport into the gutter.

Roid's "legacy" - if you can even call it that - has more stains than a tramp's underwear.

Roid Jones, Jr (and other past drug cheats) would never get away with all this stuff in the USADA era of today. Nor would Roid get away with all the ducking & cherrypicking he pulled off as the ludicrous HBO contracts Roid was gifted no longer exist. Roid's Glass Jaw would've also been exposed years before it inevitably was. Perhaps by a full decade, and most likely by Gerald 'The G Man' McClellan.

Slowly but surely the truth is all coming out. And karma has deservedly left Roid a complete train wreck. Has he retired yet? LOL.

Most disturbing of all are Roid's willfully ignorant blinkered fanboys, who - when reminded of the Roid Jones Steroid Scandal - simply bury their heads in the sand and either mindlessly parrot the debunked "Ripped Fuel" excuse without even begining to understand it, or take the disgusting deliberately dishonest "everyone is on steroids so it's ok" stance. They are incredibly short-sighted, shallow-minded ret@rds who must walk around with their heads up their @ss.

It's time to face the truth; Roid Jones, Jr was a drugs cheat.

The only question is "For how many fights?"...

- -Nice drive by hit!

Must be one of them 1/1 testa sissies wanting to dumb down the elite to sissy levels.

As it stands USADA, VADA, UKAD and others have been operating fraudulently in a quagmire of quicksand.

Bottomline- top boxers are more comprehensively drug tested than in major league sports in the absence of any testing of the news entertainment industry and their sports and political icons.

A normal 1/1 person would be ashamed of such a cowardly thug drive by, yet YOU remain shameless!

Only in boxing folks!

[Rusty Tromboni]

- -Nice drive by hit!

Must be one of them 1/1 testa sissies wanting to dumb down the elite to sissy levels.

As it stands USADA, VADA, UKAD and others have been operating fraudulently in a quagmire of quicksand.

Bottomline- top boxers are more comprehensively drug tested than in major league sports in the absence of any testing of the news entertainment industry and their sports and political icons.

A normal 1/1 person would be ashamed of such a cowardly thug drive by, yet YOU remain shameless!

Only in boxing folks!

What was in your Jell-O tonight!?

[QueensburyRules]

What was in your Jell-O tonight!?

- -Yes, remind us yet again of your jello rasslin' Gold Medals at the local men's pole dancing tourney.

As it applies to boxing of course!

[them_apples]

On the argument that there is "no magic bullet" ... I think way back in the early days of steroids, amphetamines etc. you could make that claim.

But not in the era of designer synthetics, blood doping, human growth hormone.

I mean, the difference in performance/endurance - before/after blood doping is like night and day. You are boosting the amount of saturated oxygen within the human body. Which means you can perform for longer and at a higher level. Ask any cyclist.

Certain steroids are enhancers (a small number of them) the majority produce water retention and have drawbacks. But there is absolutely no replacement for hard work. And at the end of the day, it comes down to skill above all else.

I think steroids have done 2 things in boxing effectively, prolonged careers into older age, and helped smaller fighters move up. I don't buy the rest .

I look at Anthony Joshua and would say it actually probably did the opposite of benefit him. He's got big water muscles that don't seem very functional.

[QueensburyRules]

Certain steroids are enhancers (a small number of them) the majority produce water retention and have drawbacks. But there is absolutely no replacement for hard work. And at the end of the day, it comes down to skill above all else.

I think steroids have done 2 things in boxing effectively, prolonged careers into older age, and helped smaller fighters move up. I don't buy the rest .

I look at Anthony Joshua and would say it actually probably did the opposite of benefit him. He's got big water muscles that don't seem very functional.

- -Told U drinkin' ain't thinkin'.

All Josh has done is set modern day heavy records while emasculating Haymon's hvy weight dreams and that of Fury whose been reduced feeding on carrion the buzzards have been tearing at.

What grade U in?

[Blond Beast]

All drugs need to be legalized anyway. Some places have done it already and it has gone pretty well. A guy even wrote a book about it.

Yes. All the people who have never done gear but claim it would make them a superstar are gonna have a rude awakening when they take it and still suck.

[Mikeh333]

Well Left, I'm afraid this goes back all the way to the 60s, possibly even further. Some of the first fellas who failed the 'eye test' were Sonny Liston and Cleveland Williams.

I seriously doubt either one of these men even knew what steroids are.

[Mikeh333]

All pro athletes at the top of their game are on PED's, boxers included. It's a necessity to compete at that level and you can't have peak performance without them.

An impossible statement to make. For one, I seriously doubt that every single top athlete across all sports is on steroids. It’s an assumption without evidence. Second, I could name innumerable high level athletes whose performance improvements over time were in line with their performance as junior athletes.

[BKM-]

I seriously doubt either one of these men even knew what steroids are.

You can "seriously doubt" it all you want, this is not about feelings it's about factual history and the fact is that these drugs were certainly available back then and like I said it goes back even further than that.

It wasn't available much, but it was available for certain groups of people and the biggest being world class athletes. Top boxers of those days were far more famous and in demand than they are today so it was definitely accessable to them.

The more you read and think about it the more it seems "seriously possible" instead of seriously doubtful. It's time to get rid of that child-like innocense about athletes. They all use it.