Who has/had the Complete Skill Set?

[jack p]

Maybe Joe Gans is second?

I do not even have a good idea who is second.[/QUOTE]

Maybe someone like Joe Gans who fought so many bouts
(its not easy to fight almost 300 bouts)
they even called him the "Old Master"
When he was still a young man
Unfortunately no prime Gans film exist and tuberculosis
cut his life short.
But his ring record shows a boxer who in many ways was head and shoulders against the competition in his time think its comparable to Robinson's
Joe Gan's raised the bar.
The fighters he was facing near the end of his career were getting better and better.
He was the Sugar Ray of the 1900's forced to adapt to changing conditions
Forced to evolve along with the sport.
(ie what if its pouring rain your feet can't get a grip
how do you win if its to slippery to land a solid punch)
You adapt, you change something, smart fighters
find a way to win.
According to his record Gan's found ways to win a lot

[Josh knight]

Anthony Mundine

[jack p]

it.

I believe the Gibbons brothers knew about all there is to know about boxing. Neither one of them had a punch, however, so apparently they had not perfected that part of their technical arsenal to the point where they employed it in battle.[/QUOTE]

The younger brother Mike was the deadlier Gibbon he
was just an assassin
I think that their styles prevented them from perfecting
the punching part of their prowess any more.
I'm sure they thought about it
To raise that it would have lowered their skills in some other department.
I remember reading an interview with musician Steve
Miller
He wanted to take guitar lessons and the guy told him
"Technically your a 5 out of a 10
Creatively your a 9 out of a 10
If i bring you up technically to a 9
I'm afraid it will lower you creatively
from a 9 to a 5
So he never took the lessons.

Floyd was is never a great puncher.
He can get an occasional good punch in like with
Hatton.
That's because it has the momentum of Hatton's bodyweight it makes it seem (obviously to some) like Floyds a harder puncher.
But Floyd's not a knock out artist
Ali wasn't a knock out artist but that KO over
Bonavena
Left hook by Ali
It happened because Oscar didn't see the punch
We all know Ali didn't have a left hook
It was all straight punching

[JK1700]

Floyd Mayweather Jr (The most complete boxer ever)
Sugar Ray Robinson (No question about it)
Sugar Ray Leonard (Another virtuoso)
Ricardo Lopez (He had it all, boxing, punching, defense, great IQ)
Mike McCallum (Nothing he couldn't do)
Bernard Hopkins (Although he used more clinching than defense)
Roy Jones Jr (He didn't do much in-fighting but he could do it)

I'd like to put Humberto "Chiquita" Gonzalez on the list too but he's debatable. Mainly due to consistency and discipline, in his fights with Carbajal and Sorjaturong he had both guys on the brink of defeat and they came back to beat him. Gotta give them a lot of credit for that but at the same time if he was just a bit smarter both times he would've won. He ticks all the other boxes though.

[Reyes101]

Well now you know and knowing is half the battle. Yo Joe!

Well I guess you don't know that "Yo" isn't even a word either. Huh, learned that one from Commander Cobra.

Back to Basics,Mike McCallum was a body punching tactician.
Speed, power, ring IQ, counterpunching,great chin, defense, You name it! .

[Anthony342]

Of course, he was. That's why he was called The Bodysnatcher.

Apparently Cobra Commander also appeared on an episode of Transformers.

[Joe Beamish]

I don't put much stock in ticking all the boxes and being a "complete" fighter. Or a complete painter, or a complete musician.

Most the best people are markedly incomplete -- but they are freakishly great in a smaller set of areas.

But yes, Joe Gans comes to mind as someone who was "complete" AND great.

Crawford is incomplete and would beat the snot out of the "complete" Mikey Garcia.

[The Old LefHook]

I don't put much stock in ticking all the boxes and being a "complete" fighter. Or a complete painter, or a complete musician.

Most the best people are markedly incomplete -- but they are freakishly great in a smaller set of areas.

But yes, Joe Gans comes to mind as someone who was "complete" AND great.

Crawford is incomplete and would beat the snot out of the "complete" Mikey Garcia.

Crawford vs Garcia. Six inches is a lot of high ground advantage to hold over an opponent. Crawford would be the favorite but I would be rooting for the complete little man who shows more courage than his larger opponents who are all set to play coy now about entering the ring with him.

Garcia is flat too good and too ambitious for legacy to now waste his time on a line of patsies, which would be the normal promoter's marketing plan as they licked their lips.

[Elroy The Great]

prime ali....

[GhostofDempsey]

prime ali....

You mean the guy who fought with his hands at his sides, rarely if ever went to the body, leaned back from punches, and dropped his hands too low when throwing an uppercut?