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  • #31
    Tyson is overrated by the nuthuggers, whereas I put him between 8-10 usually. I think where most people get confused is in the fact that he was "potentially" the greatest waste of talent the sport had ever seen. And it's true what Yaman said; there were lots of guys who fought back and created adversity for Tyson and he still won. The problem, however, is that Tyson was a quitter once he had become champion. He simply didn't care anymore. This is why I place him at the bottom of the top ten list.

    I think Jack Johnson is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much credit for his fight with Jeffries, even though Jeffries was gone for three years and had to shed about a thousand pounds to get into a respectable fighting form again. Other than that, Johnson was great.

    Marciano is underrated because people think that his era was stains. That's unfair. It's not like he chose to be in prime fighting form during a time when Louis was a ghost, and Patterson and Liston hadn't yet arrived. Marciano took on all comers, often bigger than himself, and he won. The man had a huge heart, worked hard, and had the best P4P punching power of anyone.

    Lennox Lewis is underrated. I think, given his size and skill, he could have done well in almost any era.

    I think that Foreman's career parallels Tyson's in many ways, but Foreman is given a lot more credit because he avoided a lot of the antics Tyson fell into. Foreman beat up a ton of tomato cans to earn a shot at the title, and then won the belt convincingly, giving him an aura of invincibility. (same as Tyson) When Foreman simply ran out of gas against Ali, people forgot about him, and Foreman became a quitter (eventually leaving the sport all together), same as Tyson after Douglas. Tyson did come back to win the belt after his prison layoff, whereas Foreman waited until he was in his 40's. Suddenly Foreman is a hero, and Tyson's a joke. Even so, I think that both men are slightly overrated.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      IMO marciano was top 15 not ten.
      Thats crazy man. I have him at number three. Below Ali and Louis. I can see him at 4 and 5, but I've got him just below Louis. For all we know he could be number 1 or two but he was not tested enough.
      Last edited by Brockton Lip; 05-22-2006, 10:14 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brassangel
        Tyson is overrated by the nuthuggers, whereas I put him between 8-10 usually. I think where most people get confused is in the fact that he was "potentially" the greatest waste of talent the sport had ever seen. And it's true what Yaman said; there were lots of guys who fought back and created adversity for Tyson and he still won. The problem, however, is that Tyson was a quitter once he had become champion. He simply didn't care anymore. This is why I place him at the bottom of the top ten list.

        I think Jack Johnson is given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much credit for his fight with Jeffries, even though Jeffries was gone for three years and had to shed about a thousand pounds to get into a respectable fighting form again. Other than that, Johnson was great.

        Marciano is underrated because people think that his era was stains. That's unfair. It's not like he chose to be in prime fighting form during a time when Louis was a ghost, and Patterson and Liston hadn't yet arrived. Marciano took on all comers, often bigger than himself, and he won. The man had a huge heart, worked hard, and had the best P4P punching power of anyone.

        Lennox Lewis is underrated. I think, given his size and skill, he could have done well in almost any era.

        I think that Foreman's career parallels Tyson's in many ways, but Foreman is given a lot more credit because he avoided a lot of the antics Tyson fell into. Foreman beat up a ton of tomato cans to earn a shot at the title, and then won the belt convincingly, giving him an aura of invincibility. (same as Tyson) When Foreman simply ran out of gas against Ali, people forgot about him, and Foreman became a quitter (eventually leaving the sport all together), same as Tyson after Douglas. Tyson did come back to win the belt after his prison layoff, whereas Foreman waited until he was in his 40's. Suddenly Foreman is a hero, and Tyson's a joke. Even so, I think that both men are slightly overrated.


        good post....good k coming

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        • #34
          I think Jack Johnson is the most overated in history.

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          • #35
            I don't know who is the most overrated ever.But Tyson is definetly up there.Although I still consider him a great.I don't see how Marciano is overated.He never lost a pro fight.And is the only champion in any weight class ever to retire undefeated with no draws at all.He is maybe overrated by people who say that he is with out a doubt the greatest that ever lived.But not many people say that.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Yaman
              Ruddock fought back HARD twice and gave Tyson a beating a couple of times. He came back to stop him and win *****. Frans Botha fought back HARD, Tyson came back to stop him. James Tillis, Mcneely, Ribalta...i can go on. They all fought back and Tyson beat them. When he lost, he lost to the better man, Tyson was better than Ruddock, he beat him even though he fought back. Douglass was better than Tyson that night etc.

              Oh ya, most overrated HW's ever are jack Johnson and Sonny Liston.
              no comment.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Chum12788
                Thats crazy man. I have him at number three. Below Ali and Louis. I can see him at 4 and 5, but I've got him just below Louis. For all we know he could be number 1 or two but he was not tested enough.
                i think alot of hw's could have beaten marciano besides ali and louis.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964
                  no comment.

                  Not that he's a bum, but he is overrated when people put him in the top 5 or something. First of all, the mob controlled some of his fights. I know you'll disagree, but you have no proof, and by reading everything about him, the mob did help him out. I also dont believe he threw the second fight against Ali. You'll disagree, but it has never been proven so i can believe what i want.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                    I think Jack Johnson is the most overated in history.
                    but i would give him more credit than rocky cause he didn't struggle with his competition like marciano did.

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                    • #40
                      Tarver...i could beat him up!

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