Most overrated boxer in history?

[Brassangel]

Marciano may have trained for it like it was a real fight, but I guarantee his layoff was longer prior to that training. Plus, the man was in his 40's. I myself box, as well as practice Eagle Claw kung fu, and I can tell that I've lost stamina before anything else when I take time off. The skill is usually still there, albeit a little less fluid. If you watch videos of Ali when he was touring colleges and stuff during his layoff, there were a lot of times where he was still in fantastic shape. He was still training (although, not during or following his trip to Egypt), just not fighting in the ring. Therefore, it's safe to conclude that he suffered less from his time off than did Marciano. Marciano could keep punching when Ali would have finished dancing if they were both in their primes. I think he could have socked people for 25 rounds. No other power puncher had that kind of stamina.

Anywho, I still think I'm the most overrated fighter.

[ROSEWOOD]

Who is the most overrated boxer in history?

Lennox Lewis....the dude ran away because them Kilt brothers was after his ass...Tyson was not overrated..his track record was goo greay then bad but he was still a force in his days...that lying ***** ****ed his life up...

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Marciano may have trained for it like it was a real fight, but I guarantee his layoff was longer prior to that training. Plus, the man was in his 40's. I myself box, as well as practice Eagle Claw kung fu, and I can tell that I've lost stamina before anything else when I take time off. The skill is usually still there, albeit a little less fluid. If you watch videos of Ali when he was touring colleges and stuff during his layoff, there were a lot of times where he was still in fantastic shape. He was still training (although, not during or following his trip to Egypt), just not fighting in the ring. Therefore, it's safe to conclude that he suffered less from his time off than did Marciano. Marciano could keep punching when Ali would have finished dancing if they were both in their primes. I think he could have socked people for 25 rounds. No other power puncher had that kind of stamina.

Anywho, I still think I'm the most overrated fighter.

thats what i said

Ali had three years off, marciano was already off for 14 years. Marciano balooned up to over 300 pounds after he retired. In the making of the SuperFight he lost over 100 but he was still just under 250, no where near his prime 188. So his stamina was probably shot

[Dye]

Lennox Lewis....the dude ran away because them Kilt brothers was after his ass...Tyson was not overrated..his track record was goo greay then bad but he was still a force in his days...that lying ***** ****ed his life up...

actually Tyson ****ed up his own life

[kerrminator]

PBF and Ali

[Floydko1]

Lennox Lewis....the dude ran away because them Kilt brothers was after his ass...Tyson was not overrated..his track record was goo greay then bad but he was still a force in his days...that lying ***** ****ed his life up...

Lewis overrtaed now hey

If thts the case tht Marvin Hagler,Duran,Ali,Luis & Sugar

P.S Tyson was rather overrated in many ppls books most boxers he faced Lost before the the bell was even rang, Hey not saying Tyson was a awesome boxer cause he was but AT one time the meida where saying tyson was "unbeatable) which is OBV going 2 far (88,89) after spinks fight (Spinks was a true Light-heavy he was NO heavyweight) Spinks losts his balls 2 before tht fight,

[tommyhearns804]

Marciano, i often see him at in positions 1, 2, 3. I can't see how that can be justified at all. I have no quarms with him at 5, 6 or anywhere later in the top 10. I like him alot and respect his ability but putting him in the top 3 is definately overrating him.

Mike Tyson. Everytime this man stepped up to a fighter willing to fight him, creating an enviroment of adversity he folded. This cannot be exscused especially when considering his 'greatness' relative to the other ATG's. My generation unfortunately tend to have him in the top 5, i have him at 10 and i think thats pretty damn fair.


Lol give me a break you racist ***s..Name one top 50 guy Marciano faced who weighed 220 plus pounds.The little italian boy never even faced a top 50 180 pound guy who was still in their prime never mind a real heavyweight but yet you say Tyson is overrated?At least Tyson was willing to fight 200 pound men.Even if they were a complete joke they were actual heavyweights.Guys like Frank Bruno,Bruce Seldom,Alex Stewart,Tony Tucker ect ect ect would of all beat the shyt out of any 180 pound fighter like Marciano but yet again Marciano is a top 5 all time heavyweight great even though he wasn't a heavyweight and never faced any heavyweights.
Lets say if Tyson was 180 pounds he would still be a far superior fighter than Marciano was.Tyson had fast hands...the man put his punches together..Tyson had some skill.Marciano had nothing.I never seen a fighter punch so slow.No matter how big they were i never seen a fighter throw his punches as slow as Marciano did.I never seen a fighter who whole career is a bunch of bull crap with the exception of Dempsey.When Marciano stepped up later in his career and start fighting more black fighters he struggled big time.Even though all of them were past their best or even smaller than he was.At some point in every fight Marciano was down in points or down on his butt.But yet because he has white skin he would just knock out Tyson right?
Tyson wasn't really that great but the man just didnt quit or get knocked down by one punch from guys his own size.So why would a weak little 180 pound man like Marciano be able to do it?Tyson would jump all over Marciano and destroy him.Just like 100's of more real 200 plus pound heavyweights would.
Marciano is the most overrated man in sports period.2006 and racism is still going on.You people crack me up.A bunch of white guys with no life.Angry because for the last 50 years blacks have ruled the sport of boxing.Still living in the past on some 180 pound glass chin cowardly italian fighter.Still trying to prove to yourself that he was some kind of a superhuman fighter who could so things no other black,mexican or puerto rican man could do.A fighter who never in his career faced any 220 pound pound real heavyweights but because of his skin color you still believe he could beat them.
Marciano isn't a top 100 fighter for a guy who weighed 180 pounds never less a top 100 heavyweight.

[Dye]

with Tyson everytime someone fought back and jabbed him he would lose, tyson could not fight backing up

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[Abe Attell]

I doubht it considering he quit twice against Ali, granted this was basically the only time he quit

also he fought at probably a weaker time then Marciano, because i know thats gunna be ur first defense that he was better then "my boy marciano". Marciano's big names were better then Liston's, the only big names (that were probably better then marciano's competition) that liston really even fought were Muhammad Ali and Clevland Williams and Floyd Patterson. It's also widely believed that many of Liston's fights were fixed. I don't 100% believe them but it makes you wonder. I don't have any real proof but its widely known that Liston had mob ties and at that time the mob was heavy into boxing. Also his Punch is very overrated, now once again you'd attack Marciano but i'd also like to point out that they both used the same ounce glove and Liston never did near the damage that Marciano did.

He also lost to a man who he outweighed by 15lbs, this same man had a less then stelar record.

So yes i'd say liston is overrated because he's only considered good because he gave a very green Ali trouble and thats only basically because Ali had some sort of chemical in his eyes (most likely one of Liston's old tricks).

Who would you say was Marciano's biggest name opponents?

Archie Moore?
Jersey Joe Walcott?
Ezzard Charles?
Joe Louis?
Roland LaStarza?

LaStarza is probably the only guy that Marciano faced that was young and was in his "Prime"

A knock on Marciano is that he fought guys later in their careers; but it wasn't like Marciano had a choice, it was just the time in which he fought.

It is best to measure Marciano as a Cruiserweight, and maybe a lightheavyweight if you go by today's standards of being able to drop 10-15lbs of water weight for the weighin, then gain it back for fight time, making you 185+