Do you rank Larry Holmes above Rocky Marciano?

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  • Mr.MojoRisin'
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    #71
    Originally posted by SemiGreat
    id rather be the guy who looked like a winner after every fight. conditioning wise, as if larry didnt fight 15 rd fights
    rocky got out when he did because he knew his time was up.

    larry holmes sparring partners would have beaten the guys rocky beat when he fought them. larry would have gone 100-0 in rockys era without much trouble. rockys 0 is probably the weakest of them all.
    Can't think of a fight where Marciano looked worse than the loser. A split nose isn't doesn't look as bad as having eyes swollen shut and a face that looked like it ran into a bee hive.

    Larry Holmes sparring partners definitely would not have beaten the rock. They were sparring partners get real dude.

    I agree that Holmes would have gone 100-0 in Rocky's era. However, the strength of an era is not determined by how one man does in that era. Especially when it suits your argument.

    49-0 get over it.

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    • Elroy The Great
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      #72
      Originally posted by billeau2
      Look on the site at threads and you will not see one video you will see 3 videos that have just been put up in a new thread. Your too ****** to check I forgot. the operative word is "new thread"
      no shlt. im asking YOU to share YOUR best example of this so called defensive genius at work.

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        #73
        Originally posted by billeau2
        Look on the site at threads and you will not see one video you will see 3 videos that have just been put up in a new thread. Your too ****** to check I forgot. the operative word is "new thread"
        yea....a new thread that didnt need to be made !!!! as if that content couldnt have been put here....i will add my 2 cents very soon

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        • Elroy The Great
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          #74
          Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
          Can't think of a fight where Marciano looked worse than the loser. A split nose isn't doesn't look as bad as having eyes swollen shut and a face that looked like it ran into a bee hive.

          Larry Holmes sparring partners definitely would not have beaten the rock. They were sparring partners get real dude.

          I agree that Holmes would have gone 100-0 in Rocky's era. However, the strength of an era is not determined by how one man does in that era. Especially when it suits your argument.

          49-0 get over it.
          i actually claimed that larrys sparring partners would have beaten those who rocky fought, WHEN HE FOUGHT THEM. i wouldnt doubt some of them giving rocky a hard way to go either, if im being truthful.

          in these hypothetical, will never happen scenarios, there is no ''wrong'' answer. just which answer makes the most sense. weve all seen larry dominate his own era and we are in an agreement that larry would most likely dominate rockys era. can we logically assume rocky would have kept his 0 in larrys era ?!?!?

          rocky has a laughable resume, get over it.
          Last edited by Elroy The Great; 02-17-2017, 04:22 AM.

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          • Mr.MojoRisin'
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            #75
            Originally posted by SemiGreat
            i actually claimed that larrys sparring partners would have beaten those who rocky fought, WHEN HE FOUGHT THEM. i wouldnt doubt some of them giving rocky a hard way to go either, if im being truthful.

            in these hypothetical, will never happen scenarios, there is no ''wrong'' answer. just which answer makes the most sense. weve all seen larry dominate his own era and we are in an agreement that larry would most likely dominate rockys era. can we logically assume rocky would have kept his 0 in larrys era ?!?!?

            rocky has a laughable resume, get over it.
            Weaver, Norton, Cobb, Cooney, Ali, Berbick, Shavers, Witherspoon, Spinks, etc....None of these guys would have beaten Marciano at the time they fought Holmes.

            There are no technically "wrong" answers but there are outlandish ones. Me saying that a rubber duck beats Marciano isn't as plausible as saying prime Muhammad Ali beats Marciano just because it isn't provable.

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              #76
              Also Holmes reigned champ in a just as weak era if not weaker than Marciano.

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                #77
                Holmes or Lewis is the GOAT, probably Lewis but its so close, I could see Larry out pointing him, faster hand speed better jab

                Prime Lewis may edge Vitali maybe

                Larry maybe beat Vitali

                Wlad isnt in it, Tyson isnt even tho hes a bad match up for these guys he cant get past guys like Holyfield hes like a specialist anti orthodox boxer but is vulnerable to good chins and smart game plans like hugging, Ali isnt he wouldnt beat a guy like Lewis, anyone b4 Ali too small

                Bowe is in it, unfortunately he ducked Lewis and was beat by him b4 the pros, also Lewis did a better job vs holyfield imo, no ko but poss could of as he was wobbled, safely picked him apart

                Haye, Joshua not in it, Haye can get passed chinny wlad, Joshua is too stiff and hittable he will come a cropper soon, I doubt his chin is awesome

                Fury and Deontay to be seen


                Gonna say Lewis Larry would have had trouble with Bowe, Lewis could have beaten any1

                Lewis was past prime vs Vitali and didnt have a full camp, he lost the fight imo but imo is more likely to have won it prime for prime when his work rate was better and he was faster and then with the extra range and full camp I think he had it, had they rematched I think Vitali would have won, its the work rate that Lewis couldnt beat as an old man, Vitali still could have won the grind prime for prime but I dont think he could have done what Lewis did vs everyone else
                Last edited by AlexKid; 02-17-2017, 05:21 PM.

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                • AlexKid
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                  #78
                  Who knows about Marciano vs Holmes

                  thats a different question

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
                    Weaver, Norton, Cobb, Cooney, Ali, Berbick, Shavers, Witherspoon, Spinks, etc....None of these guys would have beaten Marciano at the time they fought Holmes.

                    There are no technically "wrong" answers but there are outlandish ones. Me saying that a rubber duck beats Marciano isn't as plausible as saying prime Muhammad Ali beats Marciano just because it isn't provable.
                    Witherspoon has a damn good shot vs Marciano

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                    • iamboxing
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                      #80
                      No. Marciano above Holmes by a stretch. Ali said was asked about previous heavyweights and said he would have bettered them because they were boxers but he'd have trouble against Marciano because he'd hurt your arms and kept coming...he was a tank and when Ali doubts he could have won then no ****ing way is Holmes above Marciano. This is the segment I'm talking about:

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