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  • #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    No one was particularly better but it's irrelvant.

    It's nothing like saying Pacquaio, Barrera and Morales aren't ATG's because they are vastly superior fighters who also beat vastly superior fighters.

    Experts disagree with me? Find me one expert that has Memphis Pal Moore ranked ahead of Marvin Hagler and I will give you all of my points. It's absolutely asinine to suggest that these two fighters are on the same level.

    Infact, find me on expert that has Joe Lynch or Memphis Pal Moore on their top 100 ATG list.

    There's nothing to spin here. None of Wilde's opposition were ATG calibur and few of them were HOF calibur. His resume is not strong at all it simply isn't.
    Guy is seen as 13th best fighter of 20century by ring magazine experts i Wonder where hagler is ranked ,his MW era was no wear near to 50s or 60s or 90s, his MW comp is not better then Wildes comp no way in hell ,Hagler is not Monzon ,SRR or Lamotta Caliber ,not **** Tiger level ,i belive that Foster beat better MWs Then Hagler.I was saying that experts rank All this fighters very high,we can say it about every fighter, why should i belive that Hagler comp is better Then Memphis pal who faced World champs 30 times and won most of this fights ,Why i should belive that Lynch is worst Then Perez for example.I watched many docs and chacked many lists ,all have Jimmy as best flyweight ever.and i belive he is based on footage i watched him fighting ,and Lynch is nr 5 often,alcoholish took his form unfortunetly.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      No one was particularly better but it's irrelvant.

      It's nothing like saying Pacquaio, Barrera and Morales aren't ATG's because they are vastly superior fighters who also beat vastly superior fighters.

      Experts disagree with me? Find me one expert that has Memphis Pal Moore ranked ahead of Marvin Hagler and I will give you all of my points. It's absolutely asinine to suggest that these two fighters are on the same level.

      Infact, find me on expert that has Joe Lynch or Memphis Pal Moore on their top 100 ATG list.

      There's nothing to spin here. None of Wilde's opposition were ATG calibur and few of them were HOF calibur. His resume is not strong at all it simply isn't.
      Btw how you judge comp level ,how can you say that that flyweight who lived 50years later is better than this ?i dont recall any fly so dominant like Jimmy.btw dont you think that pancho Villa is overated as **** ?

      So who got your vote then ,i will count Them later

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Canelo and GGG View Post
        Guy is seen as 13th best fighter of 20century by ring magazine experts i Wonder where hagler is ranked ,his MW era was no wear near to 50s or 60s or 90s, his MW comp is not better then Wildes comp no way in hell ,Hagler is not Monzon ,SRR or Lamotta Caliber ,not **** Tiger level ,i belive that Foster beat better MWs Then Hagler.I was saying that experts rank All this fighters very high,we can say it about every fighter, why should i belive that Hagler comp is better Then Memphis pal who faced World champs 30 times and won most of this fights ,Why i should belive that Lynch is worst Then Perez for example.I watched many docs and chacked many lists ,all have Jimmy as best flyweight ever.and i belive he is based on footage i watched him fighting ,and Lynch is nr 5 often,alcoholish took his form unfortunetly.
        Memphis Pal Moore beat 30 world champions? Name them.

        I don't care where Ring Magagzine ranks Jimmy Wilde I'm asking you to show me one list where Memphis Pal Moore is ranked ahead of Marvin Hagler.

        Joe Lynch is not #5 often. I've never seen a Bantamweight list with Lynch that high. Show me one.

        Show me a Bantamweight list where Jimmy Wilde is ranked #1.

        These things don't exist.

        Wilde's resume is not that impressive it really is as simple as that.

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        • #44
          Bob was LHW ofc, amateur MW

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Scholar View Post
            I would say Lennox Lewis, followed by Joe Calzaghe. I don't buy into all this, "fighters were better back in the day" bollocks. The rest found a ceiling, Lewis and Calzaghe never did.
            oops i green k'd you for the wrong comment, was meant to be for this one ^

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            • #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Memphis Pal Moore beat 30 world champions? Name them.

              I don't care where Ring Magagzine ranks Jimmy Wilde I'm asking you to show me one list where Memphis Pal Moore is ranked ahead of Marvin Hagler.

              Joe Lynch is not #5 often. I've never seen a Bantamweight list with Lynch that high. Show me one.

              Show me a Bantamweight list where Jimmy Wilde is ranked #1.

              These things don't exist.

              Wilde's resume is not that impressive it really is as simple as that.
              I said he was voted by HBHOF ,what im saying is that his best flyweight ever ,Batama is Zarate IMO.I said i rank him higher Then Hagler,with Lynch you are Right, its Flyweights lists.my top 5 fly is :
              1.Jimmy Wilde
              2 .Perez
              3.Canto
              4.Lynch
              5.Villa.

              And yours?since you dont care about ring and things like that i wont search this All films and lists again ,i meant Fly not Bantama ,my bad,Memphis fought with World champs 30 times wining 20 of bouts ,problem is there is no Source on names (probably couple of guys fought him many times)some sources say that he fought Wilde in some tournament and won also fought with Lee, but its not on record (you see there is a problem with Records cuse many bouts are not There.)and some Sources give diffrent info .
              Last edited by Canelo and GGG; 11-07-2016, 10:36 PM.

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              • #47
                I got to conclusion that its hard to judge his resume,which is incomplete (like many of his opponents resume) some sources say that some fights happend,but for example they are not on boxrec etc,also limited footage.

                But Jurnalist from USA and UK seems to seen him as someone special

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Memphis Pal Moore beat 30 world champions? Name them.

                  I don't care where Ring Magagzine ranks Jimmy Wilde I'm asking you to show me one list where Memphis Pal Moore is ranked ahead of Marvin Hagler.

                  Joe Lynch is not #5 often. I've never seen a Bantamweight list with Lynch that high. Show me one.

                  Show me a Bantamweight list where Jimmy Wilde is ranked #1.

                  These things don't exist.

                  Wilde's resume is not that impressive it really is as simple as that.
                  He was managed by Tommy Walsh. Moore fought over 200 fights, including fifteen world champions over thirty times including nearly twenty wins.-its line from his wiki,but again idk if i can trust it ,some says that he beat Wilde in tournament ,its not on record so im lost now,hard topic.He fought Wilde,Bud Tylor,and Lynch ,Tylor and Lynch many times,not sure about Wilde doe.he also fought Eugène Criqui and Pete Herman also Kid Wiliams, Frankie Jenaro and Mcoy ,and Forbes

                  Memphis Pal had hell of a resume.9 world champions could be more not on record many of them more then ones.i would find all 15 but it takes time.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Canelo and GGG View Post
                    He was managed by Tommy Walsh. Moore fought over 200 fights, including fifteen world champions over thirty times including nearly twenty wins.-its line from his wiki,but again idk if i can trust it ,some says that he beat Wilde in tournament ,its not on record so im lost now,hard topic.He fought Wilde,Bud Tylor,and Lynch ,Tylor and Lynch many times,not sure about Wilde doe.he also fought Eugène Criqui and Pete Herman also Kid Wiliams, Frankie Jenaro and Mcoy ,and Forbes

                    Memphis Pal had hell of a resume.9 world champions could be more not on record many of them more then ones.i would find all 15 but it takes time.
                    Name to me all the world champions Memphis Pal Moore beat.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Name to me all the world champions Memphis Pal Moore beat.
                      Will give you names when i will have time, damn you Dan,you make me work

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