Holy was two time hwt champion not four. Paper titles don't count.
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Where does Evander Holyfield rank among all time great Heavyweights?
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It is impossible to say with certainty who he beats, but I believe he gives almost everyone a good fight. Let's talk about who he cannot beat.
He cannot beat Ali. This is so easy I will only discuss it for pay. Oh, sure, he can beat the one Leon Spinks beat. Is that Ali? Never mind, you want the prime.
He cannot beat Dempsey. The mauler simply thwacks too hard and can last.
He cannot beat Liston. Same as above.
Holyfield gives everyone else a life and death struggle if he does not outright whomp them.
Against non champions his big worries would be Golata and Ibeabucci. Ike's biceps might have Evander pretty scared. If he can be coaxed into the ring, Ike will submit him to the pom pom attack test of continuous fire.
Holyfield falls distinctly between 4th and 18th. I repeat: he is no worse than 18th.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View PostHoly was two time hwt champion not four. Paper titles don't count.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostNo, mine is correct. Someone like bert cooper had more skills than 90% of anyone who fought in the 00s era. and he's one of the worst good fighters on Holyfield's resume.
Originally posted by rightsideup View Postthere are so many ways to analyze holy's career. He fought almost everyone of his era . Was he consistent. No really but everyone declines when you fight as long as him. He fought bigger men but was he chemically enhanced? Consider all these factors and make your own assessment. I think his most entertaining and competitive fight was not at heavy but against Braxton in atlanta as a cruiser. If he did not gut it out and win that fight he may not achieved all he did at heavyweight.Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostDepends how you view PED use.
Excellent cruiserweight though, top 5.
Originally posted by The Old LefHook View PostIt is impossible to say with certainty who he beats, but I believe he gives almost everyone a good fight. Let's talk about who he cannot beat.
He cannot beat Ali. This is so easy I will only discuss it for pay. Oh, sure, he can beat the one Leon Spinks beat. Is that Ali? Never mind, you want the prime.
He cannot beat Dempsey. The mauler simply thwacks too hard and can last.
He cannot beat Liston. Same as above.
Holyfield gives everyone else a life and death struggle if he does not outright whomp them.
Against non champions his big worries would be Golata and Ibeabucci. Ike's biceps might have Evander pretty scared. If he can be coaxed into the ring, Ike will submit him to the pom pom attack test of continuous fire.
Holyfield falls distinctly between 4th and 18th. I repeat: he is no worse than 18th.
Originally posted by embryo View PostNobody mentioning how he got his ass kicked by James Tony and also got his ass kicked by Bobby Cyz and got lucky with a KO.
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Originally posted by phallus View Postbert cooper was a good fighter, the talent pool was a lot deeper in his time than it is today
the obvious questions about steroids are the only thing than makes me question holy's legacy
i agree with the bold, and ike would have bitten the rest of holy's ear off
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