May Madness - Middleweights

[K-DOGG]

Yeah, there's probably plenty of room for differences of opinions on that ranking, because I literally came up with it in the time it took me to write out that post...I do sorta wished I could've taken it a little deeper, though, as I would've liked to have seen a couple of my old favourites gain participation in this, Bennie Briscoe & Vito Antuofermo, as well as some other guys like Panama Joe Gans, Ken Overlin, Ceferino Garcia, James Toney, Les Darcy, Carmen Basilio, etc.

I almost didn't remember Rodrigo Valdez, though, and had to edit it to include him (had Gans at 31, but took him out)...Another one of my favourites and I really do think he belongs somewhere on that list (probably a bit higher than the spot I gave him, actually).


P.S. Just for the sake of gaining a consensus, you should also come up with a ranking of who you think should be included.

Oh, I did on page one; but they weren't ranked in any order other than when I thought of them....'course that was for a 64 list, not 32. Hmm. Give me a minute or two.

[Brassangel]

These lists are pretty good. I will start compiling a bracket and we get this thing under way.

[K-DOGG]

I think I have developed a migrane organizing #'s 15 through 32.

Anyway...list:


1. Carlos Monzon
2. Ray Robinson
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Harry Greb
5. Stanley Ketchel
6. Micky Walker
7. Bob Fitzsimmons
8. Tony Zale
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Bernard Hopkins
11. **** Tiger
12. Charley Burley
13. Roy Jones Jr.
14. Gene Fulmer
15 Joey Giardello
16. James Toney
17. Tiger Flowers
18. Marcel Cerdan
19. Freddie Steele
20. Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
21. Kid McCoy
22. Tony Yarosz
23. Nino Benvenuti
24. Solly Krieger
25. Archie Moore
26. Fred Apostoli
27. Frank Klaus
28. Rodrigo Valdez
29. Lou Broulliard
30. Bennie Briscoe
31. Vince Dundee
32. Gorilla Jones

Now, I will admit my doubt with a few of my own rankings, seeing as how the middles are not my area of expertise; but I am willing to learn. That's what it's all about, anyway.

[K-DOGG]

Yo, Brass!!

Where's the playoffs, man?!

[Frazier's 15th round]

Come on, chump. Get the tourney started.

[butterfly1964]

Come on, chump. Get the tourney started.

He probably gave up on the idea.

[Brassangel]

I apologize for the delay.

Since K-DOGG had an annurism compiling the list, I figured I'd pay him his credit and just apply it to my tournament bracket. Now, while the regions are labeled according to the cardinal directions, it in no way indicates the residence of each fighter. As I have stated before, this will be almost entirely up to you, the readers, to decide the outcome(s).

In the spirit of reality TV, I thought I would take your votes via PM to determine the winners, that way it wouldn't be spoiled for those who don't want to know right away. Feel free to discuss openly, and PM me your votes. I don't need too many details at this point, as there are too many fights to concern oneself with.

Vote for round 1 now!

WEST
1. Ray Robinson
8. Vince Dundee

4. Gene Fulmer
5. Tiger Flowers

3. Tony Zale
6. Solly Krieger

2. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Nino Benvenuti

NORTH
1. Carlos Monzon
8. Gorilla Jones

4. Joey Giardello
5. Freddie Steele

3. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kid McCoy

2. Stanley Ketchel
7. Fred Apostoli

EAST
1. Marvin Hagler
8. Bennie Briscoe

4. James Toney
5. Jack Dempsey

3. Charley Burley
6. Tony Yarosz

2. Jake LaMotta
7. Frank Klaus

SOUTH
1. Harry Greb
8. Lou Broulliard

4. **** Tiger
5. Archie Moore

3. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Marcel Cerdan

2. Micky Walker
7. Rodrigo Valdez

[butterfly1964]

I apologize for the delay.

Since K-DOGG had an annurism compiling the list, I figured I'd pay him his credit and just apply it to my tournament bracket. Now, while the regions are labeled according to the cardinal directions, it in no way indicates the residence of each fighter. As I have stated before, this will be almost entirely up to you, the readers, to decide the outcome(s).

In the spirit of reality TV, I thought I would take your votes via PM to determine the winners, that way it wouldn't be spoiled for those who don't want to know right away. Feel free to discuss openly, and PM me your votes. I don't need too many details at this point, as there are too many fights to concern oneself with.

Vote for round 1 now!

WEST
1. Ray Robinson
8. Vince Dundee

4. Gene Fulmer
5. Tiger Flowers

3. Tony Zale
6. Solly Krieger

2. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Nino Benvenuti

NORTH
1. Carlos Monzon
8. Gorilla Jones

4. Joey Giardello
5. Freddie Steele

3. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kid McCoy

2. Stanley Ketchel
7. Fred Apostoli

EAST
1. Marvin Hagler
8. Bennie Briscoe

4. James Toney
5. Jack Dempsey

3. Charley Burley
6. Tony Yarosz

2. Jake LaMotta
7. Frank Klaus

SOUTH
1. Harry Greb
8. Lou Broulliard

4. **** Tiger
5. Archie Moore

3. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Marcel Cerdan

2. Micky Walker
7. Rodrigo Valdez

It's a different Jack Dempsey, right?

[Southpaw Stinger]

It's a different Jack Dempsey, right?

The heavyweight Jack Dempsey that we all know copied his name from a middleweight boxer.

[K-DOGG]

I apologize for the delay.

Since K-DOGG had an annurism compiling the list, I figured I'd pay him his credit and just apply it to my tournament bracket. Now, while the regions are labeled according to the cardinal directions, it in no way indicates the residence of each fighter. As I have stated before, this will be almost entirely up to you, the readers, to decide the outcome(s).

In the spirit of reality TV, I thought I would take your votes via PM to determine the winners, that way it wouldn't be spoiled for those who don't want to know right away. Feel free to discuss openly, and PM me your votes. I don't need too many details at this point, as there are too many fights to concern oneself with.

Vote for round 1 now!

WEST
1. Ray Robinson
8. Vince Dundee

4. Gene Fulmer
5. Tiger Flowers

3. Tony Zale
6. Solly Krieger

2. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Nino Benvenuti

NORTH
1. Carlos Monzon
8. Gorilla Jones

4. Joey Giardello
5. Freddie Steele

3. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kid McCoy

2. Stanley Ketchel
7. Fred Apostoli

EAST
1. Marvin Hagler
8. Bennie Briscoe

4. James Toney
5. Jack Dempsey

3. Charley Burley
6. Tony Yarosz

2. Jake LaMotta
7. Frank Klaus

SOUTH
1. Harry Greb
8. Lou Broulliard

4. **** Tiger
5. Archie Moore

3. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Marcel Cerdan

2. Micky Walker
7. Rodrigo Valdez

LOL!!!! I almost developed another one on some of these picks.


I'll PM the picks of round one to you. Might come back and post on a couple of them later. Some real interesting style match-ups in this first round.