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  • #21
    Originally posted by lightsout_finit View Post
    You think Lewis punches like George Foreman?

    So you think Tyson gettin beat up by Lewis is impressive but you talk bout
    Manny like he's some ordinary fighter....

    I'm more impressed by the light flyweight who has took punches
    from Chatchai Sasakul, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, De La Hoya,
    Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Rios, Mayweather etc.

    Juan Manuel Marquez needed 42 rounds, Manny on the slide and steroids (memo) to ko Manny

    Imagine If Earnie Shavers, Liston or Foreman were roided out of their minds
    with that good **** from memo....
    They would do canelo/kahn to tyson....
    No I don't think Lewis punches like Foreman, I think he has a harder one-punch which is evident by the difference in how many 1-punch KO's Lewis has compared to Foreman. Not to mention Lewis has 30-40 pounds over the guys you mentioned and he is taller so he's punching downward usually.

    Tyson has taken a bigger brain bashing than Manny by far. The first uppercut before the follow-up shots from Douglass, the uppercut from Lewis that Tyson leaned into that resulted in an 8 count, the last right hand he leaned into, the left uppercuts from Ruddock, the right hand he took from Bruno etc. These are the hardest punchers in HW history. Tyson was always up on his feet at the count of 10 or he took the shots without going down. Can't say the same for Manny.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BKM- View Post
      No I don't think Lewis punches like Foreman, I think he has a harder one-punch which is evident by the difference in how many 1-punch KO's
      NO! Lewis has nowhere near the one punch power of George Foreman. It is
      silly to even suggest it. Start a poll and lets see who gets voted the bigger puncher.

      By your criteria who is the bigger puncher, Lewis or Bowe?

      If George Foreman was fighting the same calibre of bums and hobos that lewis fought, Foreman could be like 100-0 (100 ko) all in under 3 rounds.
      Just the Joe Frazier win alone is more than everything lennox accomplished in his life.


      Originally posted by BKM- View Post

      Tyson has taken a bigger brain bashing than Manny by far.

      How did you come to that conclusion??

      Most of Tysons career is Tyson blasting guys out with his speed and superb punching technique. Yeah he took a few licks here and there, but he didn't spend his career going through Marciano type ****, the way you make it sound.

      Manny on the other hand spent most of his career fighting like a relentless warrior!
      When he was a smaller he walked through the firepower of guys like
      Marquez, Barrera Morales etc like it was nothing. Reminded me of the way lightweight Duran would walk into a punch and it would DO NOTHING.
      When he fought Cotto at welter Manny sat on the ropes and cottos best left hooks to the body and head did nothing.
      I don't know if you seen Mannys really early career but even a lot
      of those fights were all out wars.
      Tyson isn't really known for wars....



      Originally posted by BKM- View Post
      Tyson has taken a bigger brain bashing than Manny by far. The first uppercut before the follow-up shots from Douglass, the uppercut from Lewis that Tyson leaned into that resulted in an 8 count, the last right hand he leaned into, the left uppercuts from Ruddock, the right hand he took from Bruno etc. These are the hardest punchers in HW history. Tyson was always up on his feet at the count of 10 or he took the shots without going down. Can't say the same for Manny.

      Ruddock, Douglass and Bruno are bums compared to the calibre of guys manny has fought.

      Did you really just say these 3 bums are the hardest punchers in history??

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
        Two great fighters. How do you rate their chins?
        p4p its Pacquiao. He fought great competition at 126-130 and took some great shots. Pacquiao ended up getting knocked out at WW by a perfect shot. Tyson had a good chin as well but his defense was good early on in his career, and although he never went down easy he still went down.

        Not by a landslide though, both of them have above average chins but I think Pacquiao's was really tested on many occasions - a lot of decent punchers far above his natural weight class couldn't really hurt him and from a p4p standpoint his natural weight lies around 126-135.

        Adding to some other peoples posts: I do hope Pacquiao doesn't show signs of getting punchy - he's still pretty young but he had one hell of a war torn career. Something you don't see much of these days.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BKM- View Post
          No I don't think Lewis punches like Foreman, I think he has a harder one-punch which is evident by the difference in how many 1-punch KO's Lewis has compared to Foreman. Not to mention Lewis has 30-40 pounds over the guys you mentioned and he is taller so he's punching downward usually.

          Tyson has taken a bigger brain bashing than Manny by far. The first uppercut before the follow-up shots from Douglass, the uppercut from Lewis that Tyson leaned into that resulted in an 8 count, the last right hand he leaned into, the left uppercuts from Ruddock, the right hand he took from Bruno etc. These are the hardest punchers in HW history. Tyson was always up on his feet at the count of 10 or he took the shots without going down. Can't say the same for Manny.
          Tyson did take some punishment later on in his career, I still would give the nod to Manny though, lots of wars and reckless damage. He looked like a 1940's fighter in his Morales and Marquez trilogies.

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          • #25
            Tyson, Pacquiao was stopped by one punch.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Bravado View Post
              Anybody saying manny is an idiot.
              Agreed. But, in slow motion Manny gets up and defeats Lennox Lewis and buster Douglas because of his power chin.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                Agreed. But, in slow motion Manny gets up and defeats Lennox Lewis and buster Douglas because of his power chin.
                Seriously doe Zaroku why do you hate Manny so much??

                I vaguely remember arguing with you about something or other recently and then OUT OF NOWHERE you went ****in bananas and brought up Manny for some reason.......

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by lightsout_finit View Post
                  Seriously doe Zaroku why do you hate Manny so much??

                  I vaguely remember arguing with you about something or other recently and then OUT OF NOWHERE you went ****in bananas and brought up Manny for some reason.......
                  I love Manny! Great fighter. It is PAC t@rds I hate.

                  I also believe Floyd, Manny, Marquez and many others are drug cheats.

                  But, Floyd more so, after all his Mr Clean bull crap!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                    Tyson did take some punishment later on in his career, I still would give the nod to Manny though, lots of wars and reckless damage. He looked like a 1940's fighter in his Morales and Marquez trilogies.
                    Love your avi. Jhonny and I approve!
                    Last edited by Zaroku; 06-10-2016, 01:15 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                      I love Manny! Great fighter. It is PAC t@rds I hate.

                      I also believe Floyd, Manny, Marquez and many others are drug cheats.

                      But, Floyd more so, after all his Mr Clean bull crap!
                      Ok....

                      LOL at that Jhonny/Jhonny pic......

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