Ali was a freak of nature

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #11
    Originally posted by Oasis_Lad
    great gif and as ali said after the foreman fight

    " i have a radar built inside me i know how to dodge punches"

    or something like that
    - -Fan rah rah cheerleading.

    That said he did possess one off reflexes and quick hands/feet, that he started to use to great initial effect around the time he introduced his Ali Shuffle he ridiculously predicted would change boxing that I gather this crowd has swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

    Took plentiful punishment coming up that were too often su****iously stopped on what appeared to be minor cuts.

    After Big George pounded him into marshmallow pudding, taking horrendous punishment became his signature style much to his obvious physical and mental dissapation, a train wreck in super slomo that too many ignored in their greed to extract every dollar they could squeeze out of the cottage industry he had become.

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      #12
      At no time early in his career did Ali take plentiful punishment. He was a very quick moving target. No fights were stopped too soon because of minor cuts.

      His style was always the same up until 1974 vs Foreman where ring conditions and Foreman’s ability to cut the ring forced him to adopt an alternative strategy. After this bout as champion he was faced with 15 round title fights. At his age could no longer fight on his toes for that distance so he employed a strategy to allow him to take breaks resting his legs. Long term it probably had negative effect upon his health.

      There was no time in his bout with Foreman where Ali appears hurt. Foreman landed few solid blows. Foreman however was staggered multiple time during the bout finally being knocked out for the ten count in round 8. George later stated Ali was a 215 pound heavyweight and their was just so many of his right hands he could take.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        - -To your inexpert golden idol misted eye he could be stretch on the coroner table and appear unhurt.

        No fighter deliberately takes that kind of abuse unless he's helpless. How can the inexpert eye say the club footed Foreman on the same slow canvas cuts off the fleet footed Ali so easily?

        The ropadope was not a new trick for Ali. He was always a lazy in training camp and used that to make training easy.

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          #14
          Ali was never helpless with the ropes door until he faced Holmes. During that bout he was a very sick man.

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            #15
            Originally posted by HOUDINI563
            Ali was never helpless with the ropes door until he faced Holmes. During that bout he was a very sick man.
            - -Actually need to add Frazier who also pounded Ali into a marshmallow mush.

            Laid the blueprint for how a shorter fighter can BTFO out of a taller one.

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              #16
              After Ali Frazier 1 Joe went to the hospital for a month. Ali lost that bout but best Frazier the next two. The finale by stoppage.

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                #17
                Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                After Ali Frazier 1 Joe went to the hospital for a month. Ali lost that bout but best Frazier the next two. The finale by stoppage.
                - -Frazier mostly blind in one eye and with high, prediabetic blood pressure shouldn't have even been fighting.

                Blood pressure spikes in all during a fight...Duh, but but Joe's wouldn't return to his resting BP, so it was his underlying congenital medical condition that put him in the hospital, not any Ali did. Mercante hurt him worse than Ali!

                Why U make up little porkies to fib to us all the time?

                No honor?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -Frazier mostly blind in one eye and with high, prediabetic blood pressure shouldn't have even been fighting.

                  Blood pressure spikes in all during a fight...Duh, but but Joe's wouldn't return to his resting BP, so it was his underlying congenital medical condition that put him in the hospital, not any Ali did. Mercante hurt him worse than Ali!

                  Why U make up little porkies to fib to us all the time?

                  No honor?
                  Everyone except maybe Bjorn Borg:

                  "There was a physicality about his tennis that gave him an aura of invincibility. Borg, with a resting pulse rate of 35 and blood pressure of 70 over 30, walked on court in the certain knowledge that he would never tire - or at least, not before his opponent did."

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...opponent%20did.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
                    Everyone except maybe Bjorn Borg:

                    "There was a physicality about his tennis that gave him an aura of invincibility. Borg, with a resting pulse rate of 35 and blood pressure of 70 over 30, walked on court in the certain knowledge that he would never tire - or at least, not before his opponent did."

                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...opponent%20did.
                    - -Bjorne one of my favs, but U making up porkies about non human medical figures that have nothing to do with Joes high BP is too stoopid even for U.

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                      #20
                      Queen gets owned AGAIN.

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