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  • James J. Jeffries
    George Foreman
    Primo Carnera...that big, had to be
    Nicolay Valuev...'cmon, he's a freakin' giant
    Muhammad Ali....he manhandled everybody on the inside
    Sonny Liston
    Vitali Klitschko...huge man
    Wladimir Klitschko...once again, freakin' huge
    I wouldn't put Jeffries at the top. He was strong but it was an exagerated legend. He wasn't a huge man and he thought very small heavies.

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    • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
      I wouldn't put Jeffries at the top. He was strong but it was an exagerated legend. He wasn't a huge man and he thought very small heavies.
      Ahh, got to disagree with Jeffries strength being exagerated. There are many accounts of his athleticism outside of the ring....the most famous of which is him carrying a buck on his shoulders for about five miles through the woods on a hunting trip.

      KO power doesn't necessarily denote strength. He was 6'4" and weight about 220....and that's a hard 220 that he built up making boilers under the harsh working conditions of the late 1800's. I can't turn a blind eye to that.

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      • Originally posted by K-DOGG
        Ahh, got to disagree with Jeffries strength being exagerated. There are many accounts of his athleticism outside of the ring....the most famous of which is him carrying a buck on his shoulders for about five miles through the woods on a hunting trip.

        KO power doesn't necessarily denote strength. He was 6'4" and weight about 220....and that's a hard 220 that he built up making boilers under the harsh working conditions of the late 1800's. I can't turn a blind eye to that.
        Jeffries was not 6'-4". He was about 6'-2" and about 215-217.

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        • Originally posted by butterfly1964
          Jeffries was not 6'-4". He was about 6'-2" and about 215-217.
          Split the difference...he was 6' 3".

          But he still averaged 220 Lbs.

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          • Originally posted by K-DOGG
            Split the difference...he was 6' 3".

            But he still averaged 220 Lbs.
            If you put Jeffries on your list, then you have to put Jack Johnson on that list as well.

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            • Originally posted by butterfly1964
              If you put Jeffries on your list, then you have to put Jack Johnson on that list as well.
              Johnson was great at manhandling guys on the inside; but you know as well as I do that the Jeffries he fought was 35 years old, had lost in excess of 80 Lbs for that fight, and had been out of the ring for 5 years.

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              • Dunno about Sonny Liston. He pushed around smaller heavyweights, somtimes he didnt at all.

                Jack Johnson was very strong, the way he stood in the ring and shoved some of his opponents in the ring. But same as Liston, he fought smaller fighters.

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                • Jefferies- didn't he have huge legs and used to wrestle to train for fights?

                  I also heard he used to be a circus performer as well, I've heard many accounts of him being VERY VERY strong, definitely in his prime physically stronger then Johnson...


                  He looks rather strong to me

                  check out this site
                  http://coxscorner.tripod.com/jeffries.html

                  I agree with it that its very unfair to rate Jefferies because of his loss to Johnson....In his prime he is said to be a great fighter

                  "Gilbert Odd, a historian and boxing book author wrote, "James J. Jeffries was the strongest of all the heavyweight champions" (1974, 18). According to those in Jeffries training camp, Jeff, "a lover of hunting, once killed a large deer and carried it on his shoulders nine miles to camp without stopping to rest. Friends who accompanied him had difficulty keeping up with him on the jaunt home" (Tracy Callis)."
                  Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 06-22-2006, 03:27 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
                    Jefferies- didn't he have huge legs and used to wrestle to train for fights?

                    I also heard he used to be a circus performer as well, I've heard many accounts of him being VERY VERY strong, definitely in his prime physically stronger then Johnson...
                    Dunno 'bout the circus; but his legs were indeed huge. He was a monster of a man for the times....and would be a big man today. The key to me is the time in which he developed his strength. Any man (or woman for that matter) working for a living in the late 1800's were no slouches. Those were hard times.

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                    • If you read that site you'll realize just how athletic he was

                      Jeffries had a lot more than just a modern heavyweights size and great strength going for him; he was also an outstanding natural athlete. Durant wrote, “He was surprisingly fast and agile. He could run 100 yards in 11 seconds, and high jump 5 feet, 10 inches.” (Durant, 45.) That is absolutely remarkable for a man of his size. Consider that Jesse Owens ran the 100-yard dash in 9.4 seconds a worlds record in 1936 (nowadays they run 100 meters). That a heavyweight boxer, not a track and field athlete, can accomplish such feats is the mark of an excellent athletic talent.

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