why is hagler rated so highly??

[sonnyboyx2]

Actually, what Sonny does with a straw is watch boxing through it. He has straw vision. People have no respect for views gained on ye subject from peering through a straw. His deep analyses always expose his tunnel vision. His sub genus differs from several other local top churls. A handful of them should have their own section like ye unused one for experts on this forum, from which they are not allowed to emerge to converse with the reasonable and the talented.

It would be ye churls only section of the forum. If you were a churl with unchangeable halfwitted views, that would be the place for you (you used figuratively) to write posts. Without reasonable posters to pester and harass, these creatures would find another cave to make echos in.

I don't feel like addressing any of Sonny's so called points. I don't think he had any points, just opinions. He constantly misrepresents when on a crusade. He always insists, for instance, that ye Hagler victory over Duran was razor thin. In fact, he will always use ye same compound adjective razor thin. I watched the fight as it happened and have watched it many times since. There were only a few rounds I could actually give to Duran. Viewers, including ye judges, who think it was razor thin, are victims of a post-Goldbergian effect because Duran did so much better than expected. No one is immune to forming strong expectations before a match of this magnitude based on their experience. Judges go in with them too. Some people never let go of the distortions they saw though a Goldbergian lens under the influence of great emotion and expectations, even after repeated later viewings. These people will not change their opinions elsewhere, either, for that would be like admitting defeat for a know-it-all. Yes, we know who the know-it-alls are.

Sonny-- self-proclaimmed know-it-all

Jugnuts--passionately misinformed

Elroy--a player who majors in trolling without a minor.

Why don't you get in touch with the Casino's in Las Vegas, tell them to get rid of the boxing judges as you will do all the scoring of big fights. LOL

referee: Stanley Christodoulou judges: Guy Jutras 144-142, Yusaku Yoshida 146-145, Ove Ovesen 144-143

Above is the official scoring of the Hagler vs Duran fight. if that is not close scoring i will eat haye with a donkey.

You most likely have never watched Hagler vs Duran fight. you most likely have no idea of what you are watching, when viewing a boxing match. To claim that fight was not a closely fought 15rds decision win for Hagler, proves you don't know what your talking about. Hagler won the decision by winning the final round. If he had not rallied in that final round, he would have rightly lost the decision.

Thanks.. i enjoy educating you fools :blow:

[sonnyboyx2]

Actually.....Its both. Sonny is a complete idiot who enjoys posting for shock value. But we can't decide whether he is an idiot because he enjoys posting for shock value or, if he is an idiot who happens to like to post for shock value. In my humble opinion? Sonny is an idiot who just happens among other things, to enjoy posting for shock value. I say this because he actually does quite a few more very idiotic funny sunny things, like lie compulsively, make egotistical claims that he is a boxing expert who knows more than everyone....

Now to be fair? One claim he makes is that he has forgotten more than many people know about boxing. This could be true...its just that he can't remember any of the stuff he forgot and posts dreck instead, i mean its possible.

By the way: You are probably smart enough to know that many people have addressed what Sony claims lol. And ripped it apart, and showed it to be utter bs....it does no good though, one would have a more productive effort syphoning gas through a straw and then back again into the tank.

Brilliant post, keep it up Bill. You make me feel warm inside Bill, you put a smile on my face. Knowing you have spent 15-20 minutes compilling your post about me LOL.. Keep it up Bill.

I come on the forum to debate boxing, anything to do with boxing i can respond to and put my imput on it. Unlike you Bill, who comes on this forum to read my posts, you read my posts then spend your time writing little comments about me. Your jealous of me Bill, your envious of me Bill. The truth Bill, is you wish you were me. you wish you could come on the forum and make boxing posts like me. You lie in bed at nights thinking about how great i am Bill, you fall asleep dreaming of me. Bill i know that you are falling in love with me darling!. Bill you are cute

[Elroy1]

Hagler deserves his historical rating and even a contempory one.

He was CLEARLY amongst the very best of his era.

He would have pretty clearly annihilated all comparably sized boxers of all previous eras

He would still be a relevant contender today..

^^ ALTHOUGH..

As I have said before, he would be somewhat of an aborted version of Canelo Alvarez.

Saul is today basically a "Super-Hagler".

[Elroy1]

It's amusing to see Sonny and the nut bags slug it out

ALL of you nut bags have so much more in common with him than either myself or Juggernaut..

Such as "supporting bummy boxers" for example

[Zaroku]

Watch the video of him whipping Minter, and getting beer bottles thrown at him!

Hagler is the man!

[Barn]

Why don't you get in touch with the Casino's in Las Vegas, tell them to get rid of the boxing judges as you will do all the scoring of big fights. LOL

referee: Stanley Christodoulou judges: Guy Jutras 144-142, Yusaku Yoshida 146-145, Ove Ovesen 144-143

Above is the official scoring of the Hagler vs Duran fight. if that is not close scoring i will eat haye with a donkey.

You most likely have never watched Hagler vs Duran fight. you most likely have no idea of what you are watching, when viewing a boxing match. To claim that fight was not a closely fought 15rds decision win for Hagler, proves you don't know what your talking about. Hagler won the decision by winning the final round. If he had not rallied in that final round, he would have rightly lost the decision.

Thanks.. i enjoy educating you fools :blow:

I forgot that boxing judges are so impartial and there's never been dodgy scoring in the history of the sport!

Jesus Christ, Hagler won like 10 rounds, maybe you should watch the fight.

[billeau2]

Why don't you get in touch with the Casino's in Las Vegas, tell them to get rid of the boxing judges as you will do all the scoring of big fights. LOL

referee: Stanley Christodoulou judges: Guy Jutras 144-142, Yusaku Yoshida 146-145, Ove Ovesen 144-143

Above is the official scoring of the Hagler vs Duran fight. if that is not close scoring i will eat haye with a donkey.

You most likely have never watched Hagler vs Duran fight. you most likely have no idea of what you are watching, when viewing a boxing match. To claim that fight was not a closely fought 15rds decision win for Hagler, proves you don't know what your talking about. Hagler won the decision by winning the final round. If he had not rallied in that final round, he would have rightly lost the decision.

Thanks.. i enjoy educating you fools :blow:

Yeah because judges get it so right.

[billeau2]

Brilliant post, keep it up Bill. You make me feel warm inside Bill, you put a smile on my face. Knowing you have spent 15-20 minutes compilling your post about me LOL.. Keep it up Bill.

I come on the forum to debate boxing, anything to do with boxing i can respond to and put my imput on it. Unlike you Bill, who comes on this forum to read my posts, you read my posts then spend your time writing little comments about me. Your jealous of me Bill, your envious of me Bill. The truth Bill, is you wish you were me. you wish you could come on the forum and make boxing posts like me. You lie in bed at nights thinking about how great i am Bill, you fall asleep dreaming of me. Bill i know that you are falling in love with me darling!. Bill you are cute

Cute!? I thought I was a little green man. Make up your mind...Or am I alone like you claim? I think you also thought me a teenager at one point. the thig is your posts are just like your hunches. I am a family man with two boys, two dogs and a wife, married for over 20 years...there is no green in my complexion and little? hardly as I tip thy scales at 280 or so... Im a big boy, not a fat boy but you would have been closer!

Your consistant Sonny I will give you that, your hunches are pretty much wrong 100% of the time...But if hunching wrong and trolling are your pleasure I am glad to make you feel such warm feelings! It would just be nice if these interests were pursued with a bit more self control is all... But actually? since Joe and the Bums took you to the woodshed youve behaved better....I don't know if I should thank you or Joe....Or Elroid, because the Troll door can only stand so much and Elroy is such a handful perhaps thats a factor, I don't know. Just feeling warm and fuzzy myself is all! Your a good troll Sonny!

[D-MiZe]

Why don't you get in touch with the Casino's in Las Vegas, tell them to get rid of the boxing judges as you will do all the scoring of big fights. LOL

referee: Stanley Christodoulou judges: Guy Jutras 144-142, Yusaku Yoshida 146-145, Ove Ovesen 144-143

Above is the official scoring of the Hagler vs Duran fight. if that is not close scoring i will eat haye with a donkey.

You most likely have never watched Hagler vs Duran fight. you most likely have no idea of what you are watching, when viewing a boxing match. To claim that fight was not a closely fought 15rds decision win for Hagler, proves you don't know what your talking about. Hagler won the decision by winning the final round. If he had not rallied in that final round, he would have rightly lost the decision.

Thanks.. i enjoy educating you fools :blow:

The fight wasn't that close but you can't take much away from it essentially being lightweight vs middleweight when the former is not only the greatest lightweight but had travelled the divisions beating the best. Also beating Davey Moore to pulp and Iran Barkley who were around that weight.

Furthermore the majority of ATGs rely on fighters who've travelled weight(s) to add to their credentials.

[billeau2]

It's amusing to see Sonny and the nut bags slug it out

ALL of you nut bags have so much more in common with him than either myself or Juggernaut..

Such as "supporting bummy boxers" for example

Actually lets clarify because there is some truth here:

first off: Juggy has shown the capacity to post well. You are a horrible influence on him, but hes his own man I am not my brothers keeper.

Now Sonny? Sonny also has the capacity to post well and with knowledge...he chooses not to often enough and again, thats his decision.

Now you? You actually are a marvel. You have displayed virtually no knowledge or understanding of anything. Even when you use an analogy, like physics, you manage in a mere sentence to show ignorance. You truly, alone, show a capacity that belies the fact you are:

either very young....I hope so.

very ignorant....a distinct possability.

And take it from a contrarian. heres a hint though: when one is a contrarian it requires extra proof. most people, for example, don't have any idea how long Galileo labored to chart the course of Jupiter's moons, and even then he was sometimes in error when trying to show the pull of gravity... Chomsky who defeated Skinner showing that we have innate qualities as human beings had to create a whole field of study to explain language acquisition in human beings, replacing many views that assumed physiology seperated us from the animal kingdom.

Take it from a contrarian, you give contrarians a bad name sir!