Michael Carbajal: The best of the best little men

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I'm not trying to bash carbajal, he was one of my favorite fighters of the 90s, but I think all these guys sub-bantam, and really probably sub-feather have a much easier road then guys from 130-heavy, especially guys from 135-160.. Every country in the world produces guys from 135-160, but only a limited few in comparison produce guys below 126 and above 175.. Case in point, how many asian heavyweight contenders have their been.. How many Samoan feather weights, or Russian flyweights, or Korean light heavies.. Between 135-160 every country has produced really good fighters, higher or lower the pool of fighters shrink dramatically..

Name ricardo lopez's, carbajal's, roman gonzalez's 10 biggest fights, win or lose,

Then compare those names to floyd, manny, chavez, Oscar, hopkins, evander..

Sub-bantams have nowhere near the competition level, at best their is usually one maybe 2 legit threats instead of the 4,5,6 you would face at 135-160

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So you expecting to see his resume and recognize every name he fought. Guess what, below featherweight nobody knows the up and comers and contenders. Especially the up and comers and contenders from twenty plus years ago. But just because you don't recognize them doesn't make them journeyman. But it's fact when carbajal was champion he always requested and took on the #1 contender everytime out if not a former champion. That's fact. You can say he wasn't as great as he was but among all boxing writers and historians carbajal is consistently rank in the top 3 of all time jr flyweights and that's fact.

I said name his ten biggest fights,, win or lose

[boxinghead530]

I said name his ten biggest fights,, win or lose

Look ok you are right hes a nobody fighter.

Just know all respected boxing writers and historians consistently rank Carbajal top 3 of all time at jr flyweight.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Look ok you are right hes a nobody fighter.

Just know all respected boxing writers and historians consistently rank Carbajal top 3 of all time at jr flyweight.

Whatever,,, don't name his 10 biggest fights..

I don't care what other people say.. Jr flyweight isn't even a historical division, it's on par with super middle and cruiser

And I already named 3 fighters earlier..

How is he better than Zapata or roman or lopez

[boxinghead530]

I'm not trying to bash carbajal, he was one of my favorite fighters of the 90s, but I think all these guys sub-bantam, and really probably sub-feather have a much easier road then guys from 130-heavy, especially guys from 135-160.. Every country in the world produces guys from 135-160, but only a limited few in comparison produce guys below 126 and above 175.. Case in point, how many asian heavyweight contenders have their been.. How many Samoan feather weights, or Russian flyweights, or Korean light heavies.. Between 135-160 every country has produced really good fighters, higher or lower the pool of fighters shrink dramatically..

Name ricardo lopez's, carbajal's, roman gonzalez's 10 biggest fights, win or lose,

Then compare those names to floyd, manny, chavez, Oscar, hopkins, evander..

Sub-bantams have nowhere near the competition level, at best their is usually one maybe 2 legit threats instead of the 4,5,6 you would face at 135-160

I agree with some of your points. The lightweighter weight divisions 115 and under is a non spotlight division. So fighters in those division don't get any attention. I agree with the talent pool at those weights aren't as great as others division, but that just has to do with the size of the man. How many 105-115 adults are out there compared to a normal size adults, but that doesn't mean they ones that fight in those division are not talented.

With Carbajal he did fight a lot of good guys and he did fight some journeyman but overall his talent of competition is just as great and possible better than any little man. He fought 10 champion in his career and was the lineal in his division.

IMO my opionion he biggest win was against Chiquita who was one of the other top 3 to 5 greats. He fought Pastrana who was a very good little man fighter, he beat scotty olson by KO, KOed Arce in his final fight of his career for the title. He beat Melchor Cob Castro who was a champion and a great little man fighter. He knocked out Domingo Sosa another champion, Knocked Out Robinson Cuesta another champion, He beat Marcos Pacheco another champion, KOed Kittikasem another champion. He fought and beat Will Grisby in his debut fight as a pro a guy who went on to be a champion himself. Carbajal may have thrown in a few journeyman along the way to stay active but he did fight the best his division had to offer when he was champion. It was always known when he was champion that he deliberately went after the best available guys and always requested the number one contenders to defend against.

[boxinghead530]

Whatever,,, don't name his 10 biggest fights..

I don't care what other people say.. Jr flyweight isn't even a historical division, it's on par with super middle and cruiser

And I already named 3 fighters earlier..

How is he better than Zapata or roman or lopez

For your information you should take into consideration what the experts and historians have to say, after all no matter what you or I say or think they do know more than us(at least most of them do). LOl

You can say Jr flyweight is not a historical division but that division did have lots of very great fighters in it. Is it a gamour division? Hell NO but those little guys could fight and Carbajal was one of the giants among them.

Could he beat Zapata, Roman or Lopez? IMO yea he could beat them, and they could beat him too. Zapata is prolly on par or slightly better than Carbajal. I could see Zapata beating him and I could see Carbajal beating him. I think out of three time Zapata beats him twice. Are for Lopez if he had fought Carbajal he would have had to move up to fight him so Carbajal would have been the bigger man. I think Carbajals size, strength, power, heart, determination and very good ability gets him 2 out of three win vs Lopez who is one of my other favorite little man fighters. I just think carbajals size would wear him down and sink him in the end.

As far as Chocolatito, well his story is still being written and he could possibly go down as the greatest of all time in 115 division, so I cant really touch on that just yet. I love what chocolatito is doing right now and I cant wait for him to destroy Viloria.