Duran beating SRL in 80 or SRL beating Hagler in 87?

[sonnyboyx2]

Duran was already past his prime and moving up to a new weight class. He beat Leonard when Sugar was approaching his prime in a great fight that is fun to watch from beginning to end. Leonard-Hagler is good in spurts but it is not as much a war as the Duran-Leonard fight was. The Brawl in Montreal is hard to beat.

If Duran was past his prime in 1980 like you claim. Then what was he in late 83 when moving up another two weight classes, to lose a very close fight over 15rds to a peak Hagler?

[Ray Corso]

Don't be to upset about my evaluation of that fight or those fighters.
After all I couldn't give spit about your opinion or concerns.
Your a fanboy and outside your favorites its all about hate!
No time for you, again I do my best to avoid the childish haters here.
Ray

[rightsideup]

If Duran was past his prime in 1980 like you claim. Then what was he in late 93 when moving up another two weight classes, to lose a very close fight over 15rds to a peak Hagler?

November 83 was when hagler duran took place

[rightsideup]

Bizarre post.

Leonard -Hagler mediocre?

Yes mediocre is a strong word but the fight definitely lacked the pace of duran Leonard in montreal

[wmute]

A fight between two greats who were past it which should have been judged a draw, or two greats in their primes? Why should there even be a question here? One was a great fight, the other was mediocre. What was the question again?

This ^^^^^^^^

The 2 fights are not even in the same page of my book.

[Scott9945]

Bizarre post.

Leonard -Hagler mediocre?

That fight rates high in drama and significance. But as far as actual ring action it was just okay. Both fighters had seen better days.

[HWChampion]

If Duran was past his prime in 1980 like you claim. Then what was he in late 93 when moving up another two weight classes, to lose a very close fight over 15rds to a peak Hagler?

This is a bit off topic, but you sonnyboy remind me of that ****** elroy. Are you related!?

[The Noose]

the 118-110 scorecard was not as bad as you make out 10-2rds in Leonard's favour.. every time i have ever watched the fight, i always have it 9-3rds for Leonard..so i see nothing wrong with that judge's scorecard. Yet the judge who scored it 7-5rds for Hagler was simply appalling at the job. How could he score 7rds to Hagler when Marvin and his corner have rightly claimed since fight-night, that they foolishly gave away the first 5rds?...

Claiming Leonard's lay-off "Did him good" is ridiculous. Divorce, drugs, detached retina etc.. Claiming Hagler at his best beats Leonard at his best. is laughable and simply absurd.. Leonard was 10 times the boxer Hagler ever was. Leonard was miles faster, more skilled, greater fleet-footed and the greatest fighter Hagler would ever dream of entering a boxing ring with... Leonard at his best was virtually unbeatable. Leonard at his best, would have been a very short odds-on favorite to defeat any version of Hagler, Hearns, Duran or Benitez...

The 67-3 record of Hagler is as "padded as it gets"... yes he beat 3 or 4 Philly fighters who were fringe contenders or past their best, but the vast majority of his opponents were trail-horses and journeymen..

Finally, let's not forget the Hagler vs Antuofermo draw...It's laughable to claim he beats Sugar Ray Leonard.

I dont know about that. Hagler at his best was very strong and worked non-stop. I can see Leonard out boxing him, but he wasnt unbeatable. Hagler could of broken him down late.

Yes mediocre is a strong word but the fight definitely lacked the pace of duran Leonard in montreal

That fight rates high in drama and significance. But as far as actual ring action it was just okay. Both fighters had seen better days.

Yes. Both true.

[billeau2]

This is a bit off topic, but you sonnyboy remind me of that ****** elroy. Are you related!?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

If Duran was past his prime in 1980 like you claim. Then what was he in late 93 when moving up another two weight classes, to lose a very close fight over 15rds to a peak Hagler?

In that case, in '83, he was past his prime and showing the blueprint for beating Hagler, which according to many(Larry Holmes among them) he succeeded in. Leonard admitted that he used the Duran-Hagler fight to figure out how he would fight Hagler.