Pre-1960 and Post-1960 boxers
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The mere fact that he throws combos, is light on his feet, and fights inside should give one pause to consider him relatively well rounded.Comment
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Its funny you should say that because Sharkey kind of reminds me of the Russian. Indeed Sharkey did beat Carnera the first time. Canera had a good chin I don't know if Povetkin gets a KO.Comment
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Carnera was agile on his feet for such a huge guy. more agile than Povetkin. Carnera scored more knockouts than any Heavyweight champion in history including Povetkin... i cannot see Povetkin beating or lasting the distance with Max Baer or Joe Louis. i am not trying to make Carnera out to be a brilliant fighter here, i am comparing Carnera to other behemoths who have held the Heavyweight title since 1960.. Povetkin would lose to every single one of them.Comment
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None of these guys today would have dominated pre 70-80s. The touted advantages in training technology, nutrition and size are only a product of current conditions these guys are in today. Wlad for example with his small bone structure would have been a 210 pound beanpole at best if not for the heavy weight training, high protein diet and extra supplementation he's on. Another is Povetkin who for most of his career was a flabby attrition puncher but suddenly found the cocktail of youth. At 36 he's bulked up and seemingly become this big KO artist. The size standard doesn't even universally apply in this era as Wilder won the WBC title at 219 pounds with 18 inch thighs.Last edited by KnockoutNed; 08-08-2015, 04:42 PM.Comment
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There is a lot of information on roids....Not the mainstream either, but information that comes from all biases. Here is what I find a supreme irony: Probably the single best thing roids have done in boxing is accelerate the healing process. Now, how were the ancients able to fight so much without these accelerants? Again, human potential and the way we shape the body in expected ways, to attain expected goals is very intersting indeed. For example, Fat James Toney had a lot of injuries...many of them perhaps due to his weight gain and steriods allowed him to heal, at the very least.
So why do modern guys get injured to a degree where they feel (the subjective) that they cannot fight injured? Is it that the ancients were used to fighting injured? were they tougher? did they have enough tricks in the bag....i.e would a Pacman from days gone by not be as hindered by a shoulder malfunction?
Human physiology tells us that muscle mass, testosterone and increased aerobic capacity are the things that maintain us in athletic contests....Yet how much of these benefits do steroids really give? I don't pretend to know...I do know that in martial arts the focus is always on what the mind can make the body do....Or as one great Karate man was wont to say: "train the body and the mind will follow.
Its an intersting question and from what I have seen there are many variables involved that have to he isolated to answer things scientifically.
The only impediment is we don't have those real numbers to insert.Comment
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