Charley Burley II

[IronDanHamza]

Undisputed top 20 all time fighter. A pioneer, and a master of the science.

Can you provide the ample footage of Charley Burley you claimed you have?

Everyone is dying to see it considering you're the only person on the planet who has it.

[IronDanHamza]

Lol are you joking or serious?

I was going to ask the same question.

[McGoorty]

I was going to ask the same question.

Oh we already cleared that up, but i do think Mayweather is way overrated especially when he is rating himself.

[joeandthebums]

Burley lost twice to Ezzard Charles, when Ezzard was still in high school.

That's not too much of a stain on Burley as Charles had a stellar amateur career and was already considered a top fighter at the weight.

Charles age says more about his own talent than Burley's ability.

The problem with Burley and one thing I think you may have overlooked entirely is this... why wasn't Burley rated so highly then as he is now ???.

Burley was a permanent resident in The Ring's ratings from 1940 to 1947 at WW then MW.

He was rated highly, he just had no exposure.

I will look into it further but most of it has been covered in this thread like beating a young and far from prime Archie Moore who was a late bloomer

Moore was an experienced pro when the two met, whether he picked up few more tricks later on is possible but the guys he lost to in the 40's were no longer around when he had his period on top.

His peak might of just lasted longer rather than being a late bloomer.

Fritzie Zivic is one of the few white names he had on his record but I think Fritzie was well past his best and only a WW in reality.

Zivic was a erratic with his performances over career, but he was in prime territory when the two clashed. Burley and Zivic had a good local series going, with Burley clearly getting the better of it 1938-1939.

15 months from their last contest it was Zivic not Burley who got a shot at Armstrong's WW crown.

[Scott9945]

That's not too much of a stain on Burley as Charles had a stellar amateur career and was already considered a top fighter at the weight.

Charles age says more about his own talent than Burley's ability.

Valid point and Ezzard was all that, but other than Cervantes (against Benitez), how many ATG's lost to an 18 year old while in their prime? Charles was 1-1-1 in his previous three fights, so it wasn't like he was unstoppable.

[HughJass]

Jesus,who the **** said they had footage of Burley....Pure BS!!!!!

[IronDanHamza]

Jesus,who the **** said they had footage of Burley....Pure BS!!!!!

LoadedWraps claims he has loads of footage on his computer.

Full fights even.

Can you give the world what we've been waiting over half a century for, LoadedWraps!!

After all these years of agony, the world believing that there was no footage of Charley Burley outside of highlights of Oakland Billy Smith the answer was on LoadedWraps computer.

Share it with us.

[joeandthebums]

Valid point and Ezzard was all that, but other than Cervantes (against Benitez), how many ATG's lost to an 18 year old while in their prime? Charles was 1-1-1 in his previous three fights, so it wasn't like he was unstoppable.

Good points that can't argue with really.

[ShoulderRoll]

I often see him and other murderers row types all rated in lists at the expense of the likes of Les Darcy, one of the reasons I now refuse to recognise any lists by anybody from anywhere anytime, they are all faulty, cannot be proved and are a waste of time.

The Black Murderer's Row were incredibly tough and talented fighters who fought during a very competitive era. Most of them deserve the accolades they get.