Has there been a previous #1 P4P who retired undefeated?

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  • SlySlickSmooth
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    #1

    Has there been a previous #1 P4P who retired undefeated?

    If Floyd is true to his words as of lately and he retires after his next fight at 49-0. Would he be the 1st consensus/The Ring #1 P4P to retire undefeated?

    Unless you think Joe Calzaghe is the GOAT?
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    There have been several but for financial reasons they came back. Joe Louis for example. Most of the greats kept fighting and did not want to retire just to preserve their record. Eventually they lost but their legacy was secure even though they went on taking risks.

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      #3
      Originally posted by MartinC
      There have been several but for financial reasons they came back. Joe Louis for example. Most of the greats kept fighting and did not want to retire just to preserve their record. Eventually they lost but their legacy was secure even though they went on taking risks.
      Most agree MW is current #1 P4P by default. The general quality is that low. A fighter who will not fight like a champ should never be #1. It is very telling that he has been current P4P for many years and is way down the all time lists by those with knowledge. That says something. In the golden era he still has a chance to make the HOF, I guess. A lot of his contemporaries who make it now would not get in at all.

      One for the ages is how he became the leading money maker today. Again, only possible now when there are no great stars to steal the public's awe. A savvy aggressor like Robinson in today's game would snatch the mantle of money king from MW's noggin after a few fights. No need to even unstraighten his hair and put a baseball cap on backwards for such a task.

      Men have been engaging in fistic combat and other forms for thousands of years. In the past your life depended on it, not your bacon. Only non thinkers believe the contemporary age has magically added techniques & disciplines never seen or imagined before.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MartinC
        There have been several but for financial reasons they came back. Joe Louis for example. Most of the greats kept fighting and did not want to retire just to preserve their record. Eventually they lost but their legacy was secure even though they went on taking risks.
        Louis wasn't undefeated. He lost to Schmeling earlier in his career.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          I don't think so.

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          • Sugar Adam Ali
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            #6
            Ricardo Lopez comes close

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            • rightsideup
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              #7
              it would be interesting what Rocky Marciano's status pound for pound was when he retired undefeated.

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              • joeandthebums
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                #8
                Originally posted by rightsideup
                it would be interesting what Rocky Marciano's status pound for pound was when he retired undefeated.
                Don't think there's a case for him to be #1 at that time.

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                • Ray Corso
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                  Years ago there was no where near the attention about a p4p fighter like today. At the end of the year a "best performer" of the year would be picked and that took care of that. Also everyone knew Robinson was the best
                  ever (TBE) so picking a top ten these years just shows that the current generation is guilty of the same thing they say about the older generation.
                  They both think their era's are superior to each others.
                  I think the best from boxings history is in the late 30s through the 50's and then again from the mid 60's into the mid 70's! After that theres fewer and fewer great fighters.
                  Ray

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MartinC
                    There have been several but for financial reasons they came back. Joe Louis for example. Most of the greats kept fighting and did not want to retire just to preserve their record. Eventually they lost but their legacy was secure even though they went on taking risks.
                    Was Louis ever ranked P4P No.1? He had a loss, via KO, before he even became champion and long before he had the chance of being ranked P4P No.1. So no comparison.

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