the cruiser weight division

[rightsideup]

I am just curious about the earning power of this division and are fighters motivated as in the past to fight in the heavyweight class as the great lightheavys of the past such as ezzard charles,billy conn and Michael Spinks?i know Evander holyfield was one who used the cruiserweight title as a stepping stone to the more lucrative money in the premier title. Is this going to continue to be the case?

[The Old LefHook]

I am just curious about the earning power of this division and are fighters motivated as in the past to fight in the heavyweight class as the great lightheavys of the past such as ezzard charles,billy conn and Michael Spinks?i know Evander holyfield was one who used the cruiserweight title as a stepping stone to the more lucrative money in the premier title. Is this going to continue to be the case?

People are less interested in cruiserweights than strawweights.

[Scott9945]

I am just curious about the earning power of this division and are fighters motivated as in the past to fight in the heavyweight class as the great lightheavys of the past such as ezzard charles,billy conn and Michael Spinks?i know Evander holyfield was one who used the cruiserweight title as a stepping stone to the more lucrative money in the premier title. Is this going to continue to be the case?

Cruiserweights do well in Europe, but the division has never really caught on in North America. To me it is a useful division for fighters who can't make 175 but are way too small to compete against the bigger heavyweights. The last cruiserweight fight in the US that was significant was Toney-Jirov, which was quite awhile ago. Cruiserweights who want to make decent money need to fly east. Just ask Steve Cunningham.

[rightsideup]

Cruiserweights do well in Europe, but the division has never really caught on in North America. To me it is a useful division for fighters who can't make 175 but are way too small to compete against the bigger heavyweights. The last cruiserweight fight in the US that was significant was Toney-Jirov, which was quite awhile ago. Cruiserweights who want to make decent money need to fly east. Just ask Steve Cunningham.

Roughly when did the amateurs institute the heavy weight and superheavyweight divisions?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Cruiserweights get horribly promoted... I don't know why it's such a dud division... There has been great fights there over the years and over the past decade is arguably the most exciting fights of any division... O'neil bell, McCormick, Cunningham, adamek, lebedev, huck, haye, braithwaite, etc.... The division has had a lot of great matchups, but gets no love...

Ironically in mma, the 205 is the glamour division on par with boxing's welter division... I don't see how mma can have a great 205 division and boxing can't..

Cruiser seems to be the red headed stepchild of boxing

[Humean]

I am just curious about the earning power of this division and are fighters motivated as in the past to fight in the heavyweight class as the great lightheavys of the past such as ezzard charles,billy conn and Michael Spinks?i know Evander holyfield was one who used the cruiserweight title as a stepping stone to the more lucrative money in the premier title. Is this going to continue to be the case?

I think all the top cruiserweights would try to be heavyweights if they could, the problem is that the gulf in size betweem them and Wlad and perhaps other top super-heavyweights is just too big for most of them to overcome. Holyfield was something of an exception in being able to compete with the top super-heavyweights on such even terms. Huck looks like he will be trying again as a heavyweight.

Cruiserweights get horribly promoted... I don't know why it's such a dud division... There has been great fights there over the years and over the past decade is arguably the most exciting fights of any division... O'neil bell, McCormick, Cunningham, adamek, lebedev, huck, haye, braithwaite, etc.... The division has had a lot of great matchups, but gets no love...

Ironically in mma, the 205 is the glamour division on par with boxing's welter division... I don't see how mma can have a great 205 division and boxing can't..

Cruiser seems to be the red headed stepchild of boxing

I think it is just a case of a lack of US talent and therefore the US channels aren't too interested. If the US manages to find a talented crusierweight that is of interest then i'm sure the weight class would get more recognition in the US. I'm not sure that will happen though, the heavier weight classes have very much swung towards European talent.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I think all the top cruiserweights would try to be heavyweights if they could, the problem is that the gulf in size betweem them and Wlad and perhaps other top super-heavyweights is just too big for most of them to overcome. Holyfield was something of an exception in being able to compete with the top super-heavyweights on such even terms. Huck looks like he will be trying again as a heavyweight.




I think it is just a case of a lack of US talent and therefore the US channels aren't too interested. If the US manages to find a talented crusierweight that is of interest then i'm sure the weight class would get more recognition in the US. I'm not sure that will happen though, the heavier weight classes have very much swung towards European talent.

Are you Europe based. Or somewhere non-US? If so, then what kinda of coverage do cruisers get outside of America... I'm curious of how cruiser is viewed in places like Russia, Australia, Europe, etc..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Are you Europe based. Or somewhere non-US? If so, then what kinda of coverage do cruisers get outside of America... I'm curious of how cruiser is viewed in places like Russia, Australia, Europe, etc..

Lol,,,, didn't see that your from Scotland.... Does the Scottish like cruisers? I would assume that cruisers would be a big deal in UK/Europe when david Haye, adamek, etc were at cruiser..

[billeau2]

In nature when an animal is weak...often times a predator will go after it even though it is usually too big. When one watches this display it is heart wrenching but unevitably there is that one individual who calmly, as the KOMONO Dragon eats the animal alive as it is crawling away, will say: "Its just how nature works."

Cruisers are a great incentive mechanism for when the heavyweights get weak. As a separate division they can be as talented as any one else, but they can always make the jump if need be. For example, When Tyson Fury was looking ripe for the taking, Cunningham put him on his hammies!

[Humean]

Lol,,,, didn't see that your from Scotland.... Does the Scottish like cruisers? I would assume that cruisers would be a big deal in UK/Europe when david Haye, adamek, etc were at cruiser..

It all depends if we have strong British talent in a division. When Haye was at cruiserweight then yes the division got coverage just as it got coverage when Johnny Nelson was around, although not as much. Certainly Haye's fame grow far larger when he moved to the heavyweight division though, there is no doubt that the heavyweight division still holds the glamour. At the moment we have BoxNation who have shown a number of the cruiserweight title fights in recent years involving the European based champions, and they are on at much more convenient times than the US fights (10pm versus 4-5am) so as a British boxing fan the cruiserweight division doesn't feel too far under the radar. It is the lowest weight classes that you never hear anything about, or see, on British tv because we literally have no fighters in those classes or we have fighters who just aren't all that good.