Great Fighters beaten by a Journeyman when in their prime.

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  • BKM-2010
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    #11
    Frankie Randall beating Chavez gotta be one of the bigger ones.

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    • LacedUp
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      #12
      Since when is Amir Khan a "great"?

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        #13
        I can't believe we are on the 2nd page of thread and no one has mentioned Wlad losing to purritty, sanders and brewster

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          I can't believe we are on the 2nd page of thread and no one has mentioned Wlad losing to purritty, sanders and brewster
          The criteria is 'great fighters' who lost to journeymen.

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          • Sugar Adam Ali
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            #15
            Originally posted by BKM-2010
            The criteria is 'great fighters' who lost to journeymen.
            Oooooohhhhh.... That's fighting words...

            Expect the Wlad trolls to come full force against your post..

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              #16
              Originally posted by BKM-2010
              Frankie Randall beating Chavez gotta be one of the bigger ones.
              The criteria is "great fighters in their prime".

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              • BKM-2010
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                #17
                LOL it's true though, when Wlad lost he wasn't remotely close to being great. It's the years of consistency since the losses that is making him approach HOF status(I'd personally rank him among the 1800s- fighters who used greco roman wrestling as one of their main techniques though).

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                • BennyST
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BKM-2010
                  LOL it's true though, when Wlad lost he wasn't remotely close to being great. It's the years of consistency since the losses that is making him approach HOF status(I'd personally rank him among the 1800s- fighters who used greco roman wrestling as one of their main techniques though).
                  Come on man...he was 30 years old, had nearly 50 fights, had been a pro for about ten years and had spent 4 years as a champion with many defenses and champions beaten when he last lost. That is as prime as it gets. In fact, he wasn't just in his prime, he was a long time, battle tested veteran champion of the sport. Unless of course we're now calling 30 year old, decade long world champion pros of 50 fights green and inexperienced?

                  That excuse is the most overused and utterly absurd one of all the excuses Wlad fans pull out. "He wasn't in his prime though"

                  So his prime was conveniently only when he didn't lose? According to those guys, his prime just happened to start in the fight directly after his last loss and has lasted to now...though his next loss he'll be suddenly out of his prime.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                    Many great champions have been beaten by a journeyman fighter when they were in their prime fighting years...

                    Roberto Duran by Kirkland Laing..
                    Lennox Lewis by Oliver McCall
                    Mike Tyson by Buster Douglas
                    Amir Khan by Breidis Prescott
                    Duran wasn't even particularly close to his prime by that stage. That's a textbook example of a once great fighter not in his prime anymore.

                    Lewis is a good one except McCall was hardly a journeyman. A championship caliber fighter is, by definition, not a journeyman.

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                    • sonnyboyx2
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      I wouldn't put Duran as prime when he fought Laing..
                      i would say he was not far short of being prime..it was around "****-in-the-middle" of No Mas and Davey Moore fights.. it wasn't his lightweight prime, more like career prime.

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