hardest heavyweight puncher

[butterfly1964]

wut about in the first marciano fight when ezzard charles was 32 years old and weighed 185lb in there fight?

did u know ezzard charles won the title in 1949 vs walcott weighing 182lb just 3lb less than in the first fight with marciano.


so wuts this prime weight crap?




joe choynksi WAS NOT 170lb, he was closer to 160lb




butterfly, did marciano ever fight a man under 170lb?


did marciano ever get knocked down by a middleweight champion?


did marciano ever get knocked out by a 5'8 165lb man?




why did muhammad ali weigh 206lb vs liston in the rematch? cause he wanted to lose weight for 218lb liston?

alright, i'll agree that marciano's competition was better than johnson's. are you happy now?

and liston weighed 215 1/4 in the rematch, not 218. did ali look small in the rematch? no. did you know that in the first fight with cooper, ali weighed 207? and the rematch with liston he weighed 206. but if you look at the fights, he looked smaller fighting cooper than he did with liston. now why would that be? it's because ali was in the best shape of his life against liston in the rematch, and he just lost some extra bodyfat, that's all. he didn't lose muscle mass or anything like that.

[supaduck]

I think there are different types of big punchers. Foreman had the hugest amount of force, so you could argue he was the hardest, but a couple of others like Shavers had more snap (speed, basically), which can KO you just as badly.

[Brockton Lip]

I think there are different types of big punchers. Foreman had the hugest amount of force, so you could argue he was the hardest, but a couple of others like Shavers had more snap (speed, basically), which can KO you just as badly.

I agree. Shavers, Marciano, and Tyson had those crazy powerful punches. Foreman had huge, hammering punches.

[Jenks88]

Most people say Shavers was the hardest hitter, Foreman was #2. I've also heard that Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher of his generation; there were reports that Frank Bruno and Razor Ruddock hit harder. What made Tyson deadly was his power COMBINED with his explosiveness, speed, and accuracy. If you watch the interview with Larry Holmes after Tyson KO'd him, he says that guys like Shavers and Norton hit harder, but that Tyson was a much sharper puncher and way harder to hit. Shavers probably has the best 1 punch KO power, but guys like Joe Louis and Tyson are still more dangerous punchers because of their speed/accuracy/explosiveness.

[BKM-]

Tyson belongs in the top 5. Ali had speed and accuracy, but did he rip fighters a new *******? I rate Tyson at #3 or so, but he was the most effective puncher ever.

[sookyjumps]

marciano
foreman
shavers

[butterfly1964]

marciano
foreman
shavers

i hope it's not in that order.

[Da Iceman]

you guys make this same thread everyday.

[Southpaw Stinger]

i hope it's not in that order.

So do I. worrying.

[supaduck]

Butterfly why don't you allow people their opinions?