Better resume: Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson?

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #31
    It's simply human nature to try to flex your knowledge chops when you read through sombody else's analysis post. But there are several ways to respond. The intelligent way is to provide extensions to the work done, and challenge points if you feel it's important to do so. Then, there is the insulting, lazy or dismissive way to respond. Saying things like "Wow this was a rubbish post" represents the insulting response.
    But there are some good perspectives here in my humble view.

    So....Better figher, More accomplished fighter, Better quality of opposition and Better resume are each an adjacent question, semanticly.
    It's a good post and a good question because a paralell analysis of their respective careers, each compiled during a distinctly seperate era but two eras comming in close, overlapped succession, elicits good dialog, and; it's a good question because it's a very, very close call.
    Of the dominant champions of the Post Ali era(s), over the past 40-45 years, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko, all stack up tightly and in a debatable order.
    I think Lennox edges Iron Mike's resume by a whisper.
    Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 02-07-2022, 12:13 PM.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #32
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
      It's simply human nature to try to flex your knowledge chops when you read through sombody else's analysis post. But there are several ways to respond. The intelligent way is to provide extensions to the work done, and challenge points if you feel it's important to do so. Then, there is the insulting, lazy or dismissive way to respond. Saying things like "Wow this was a rubbish post" represents the insulting response.
      But there are some good perspectives here in my humble view.

      So....Better figher, More accomplished fighter, Better quality of opposition and Better resume are each an adjacent question, semanticly.
      It's a good post and a good question because a paralell analysis of their respective careers, each compiled during a distinctly seperate era but two eras comming in close, overlapped succession, elicits good dialog, and; it's a good question because it's a very, very close call.
      Of the dominant champions of the Post Ali era(s), over the past 40-45 years, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko, all stack up tightly and in a debatable order.
      I think Lennox edges Iron Mike's resume by a whisper.
      - - Mike was ALWAYS compelling even when medicated and forced into fighting a decade beyond his sell date.

      Lewie was constipation that is never ending with no relief even in his retirement.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

        OP asks better resume not who is better.

        There may be a couple of ways of figuring it out without being dependent on 'expert' opinion.

        We have the classic who fought the most HOFs, raw number of wins by opponents, title fights, ETC.

        But what I was thinking, the best may be to apply the recent Ring Magazime standard. In a sense that seems more directed at better resumes than tyring to predict who was better..
        I basically say However, it's hard to say which record was better

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          #34
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Mike was ALWAYS compelling even when medicated and forced into fighting a decade beyond his sell date.

          Lewie was constipation that is never ending with no relief even in his retirement.
          No doubt my friend.

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            #35
            Originally posted by markusmod

            I basically say However, it's hard to say which record was better
            I agree. The contenders available for those longstanding champs to chew on for a few years, be it Frazier, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, even Klitschko...you can single out your favorites, but it's Close! The best the planet can serve up. In the past half century Only Ali's hit list seems above the crowd, and sure as I'm typing this, someone will be right along directly to challenge even that. Good times.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

              I agree. The contenders available for those longstanding champs to chew on for a few years, be it Frazier, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, even Klitschko...you can single out your favorites, but it's Close! The best the planet can serve up. In the past half century Only Ali's hit list seems above the crowd, and sure as I'm typing this, someone will be right along directly to challenge even that. Good times.
              You make a great point.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                I agree. The contenders available for those longstanding champs to chew on for a few years, be it Frazier, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, even Klitschko...you can single out your favorites, but it's Close! The best the planet can serve up. In the past half century Only Ali's hit list seems above the crowd, and sure as I'm typing this, someone will be right along directly to challenge even that. Good times.
                - - Ali gets a lot of "sympathy" votes for hanging on too long while stinking out the place as he savaged his health.

                And sadly, the sum parts of his physical attributes, talents, and persona responsible for his magnetic success were implemented for his shocking decline as "boxing" looked the other way.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KnockoutNed
                  Tyson's two most notable victories were against a 38 year old Larry Holmes and blown up LHW Michael Spinks. Holmes hadn't fought in 2 years and hadn't won in 3 years. He only had 3 weeks to train for the fight. Spinks hadn't won a fight against a quality opponent in nearly 3 years and he had very bad knees. The knees were heavily bandaged up when he fought Tyson.
                  Washed tyson
                  38 old holyfield who won 2nd fight
                  And Lucky win over non prime Klitscko

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