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  • QueensburyRules
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    - - Hector Camacho before the nose candy took him down was the most dominating, untouchable fighter in history.

    At Hvy, pre DKing/Givens Mike Tyson with his HOF team still intact near the same domination

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      #32
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
      - - Hector Camacho before the nose candy took him down was the most dominating, untouchable fighter in history.

      At Hvy, pre DKing/Givens Mike Tyson with his HOF team still intact near the same domination
      i agree about mike tyson, have you ever noticed this about tyson he never seemed to breathe hard even after ten rounds. he always looked totally calm in his prime fights and never panting. he must have had superhuman energy reserves. Tyson certainly grabbed people's imaginations as so many films and docs have been made about him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - - Hector Camacho before the nose candy took him down was the most dominating, untouchable fighter in history.

        At Hvy, pre DKing/Givens Mike Tyson with his HOF team still intact near the same domination
        Massive calculations, please!

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          #34
          Jones is the best pure athlete in the history of the sport

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            #35
            Originally posted by Slugfester

            Massive calculations, please!
            - - Better to watch the fights...simples...

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              #36
              Originally posted by The D3vil
              Jones is the best pure athlete in the history of the sport
              Camacho!

              Camacho had better legs, Camacho better beard, speed of hands equal. P4P strength equal.
              1. Camacho
              2. Fitzsimmons
              3. Jones

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                #37
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                Camacho!

                Camacho had better legs, Camacho better beard, speed of hands equal. P4P strength equal.
                1. Camacho
                2. Fitzsimmons
                3. Jones
                Roy Jones wasn't knocked out for the 1st 15 years of his career.

                Where did this "bad beard" nonsense come from?

                Guy got old and got ruined by trying to go from HW back to LHW.

                I reject he had a bad beard.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  Camacho!

                  Camacho had better legs, Camacho better beard, speed of hands equal. P4P strength equal.
                  1. Camacho
                  2. Fitzsimmons
                  3. Jones
                  - - Fitzsimmons had running training/fighting crosscountry sessions with his 18 month old Lion, Nero that roused Juarez citizenry where he was training for the Maher title fight in Langtry. Needless to say, that squelched after a few sessions. On the way to Langtry at a rest stop, he unchained a bear to fight him before he made fought Maher.

                  Had Roy retired after the first Tarver fight like he had been talking about, he'd have had a 49-1 record with the one loss an anomaly DQ where he had Montel Griffin KOed but hit him while he was still on his knees that was easily avenged the next fight. Roy likely would be on IBRO top 5 P4P list, #1 LH & SuperMiddle.

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                    #39
                    i am with willie pep and willow look at number 13 on this 20 best fighters ever.

                    he before plane crash was so impossible to hit. an amazing boxer. but no lewis in the top 20 how can that be?
                    no lewis at all gotta be wrong.
                    Last edited by max baer; 06-10-2023, 09:51 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The D3vil

                      Roy Jones wasn't knocked out for the 1st 15 years of his career.

                      Where did this "bad beard" nonsense come from?

                      Guy got old and got ruined by trying to go from HW back to LHW.

                      I reject he had a bad beard.
                      He flat wasn't getting hit in his prime other than glancing blows. I don't recall a single opponent smashing him in the face full on with a good hard shot. Please provide ANY prime footage of someone doing so, multiple examples preferred. Those examples may be there. But I wonder if you can find even one example of prime-wise pro Jones being smashed in the face and smashed good. When one is never taking swarms of punches, then one is not being worn down by those punches. When his reflexes headed south is when he became hittable like a human being. That is when any jaw-flaw from previous times or from birth would have even had a chance to rear its glass head. Not saying he did or did not, but his daddy had been training him since the bassinet, and was somewhat cruel and demanding. It was peculiar that once his jaw was under su****ion, he could be knocked out by stay-busy punches, as in Russia. Maybe age and kicking roids just caught up with him. Also,once the KOs against him started coming they kept coming. It was su****ious to me for a man who had hardly taken any good punches as a pro to develop a sudden glass jaw. Since I believe he had one, then I I am forced by logic into believing it either came naturally and we never got a chance to see it tested until he was no longer prime, or it stemmed from a previous injury. Maybe he fell down on a basketball court.
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