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  • #11
    Originally posted by bender2000 View Post
    they had better chins than lewis .
    How so? All of those fighters have been knocked out. How does that make their chin any better than Lewis?

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    • #12
      He fought in the Best Era of all time. An era that included Top Athletic AMericans, As well as Top strongest Europeans, and he emerged on top!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Joeyzagz View Post
        He fought in the Best Era of all time.
        Forget the vague concept of eras...his comp wasn't very good. He fought most mostly b, c and even d level fighters. Several of these opponents were or had recently been on heavy narcotics before the fight(Biggs,Tucker,McCall, Morrison,Golota etc). He even went life and death with some of these mediocre fighters like a sick 6'2 cruiserweight eurobum and a fat Ray Mercer who hadn't fought in over a year(Lummox got a gift decision) and he got KTFO in 1 punch by a crackhead and an amateur bodybuilder.
        On top of all that he was a boring hugger in many of his fights to protect his fine china chin.
        The only fights he had against the greats in Holyfield and Tyson as when they were very much past their prime (Lewis couldn't even impress against old Holyfield). On paper his best win is a default injury victory against Vitali where he was getting the snot beaten out of him and lost 4 of 6 rounds. He looked like he needed an oxygen tank in the corner and was ready to get knocked out. And who's Vitali anyway? That guy sucks,he quit against Chris Byrd(who Lummox ducked like the plague).

        If Lummox or his white doppelganger Grabimir had fought in the 50s-80s and had fought prime versions of Marciano,Liston,Patterson Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Holmes,Tyson etc they wouldn't have had careers.
        Last edited by thebigkabosh; 01-20-2015, 12:03 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by thebigkabosh View Post
          A fat, disinterested drug addicted Tyson was the only version of Tyson that Lummox had the courage to take on. A young Iron Mike easily crushes Lummox's glass mug.
          Of course Lummox was no stranger to fighting drugged up fighters(McCall,Tucker,Morrison,Golota etc).
          Lewis himself was heading towards shot by that time. He wasn't Tyson shot, but he was nowhere near prime.Lewis's decline was actually quite obvious to any true heavyweight fan. Lennox's prime was taken from him by that one Rahman thunder right. He never recovered from that. He only managed to beat Rahman in the rematch in such great fashion due to his heart and his willpower. Even past prime but well prepared Lewis destroys any version of Rahman. Against Tyson he was unable to string together any combinations and his hand speed has rapidly faded. He wasn't even able to land his usual upper cut/right hand combo. The same combos he landed on Prime Mercer time and time again.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by bender2000 View Post
            I have to agree a prime Tyson knocks out lewis easy , the Tyson he fought was beyond shot a poor excuse of a fighter he had no interest in fighting other than for money at that point , it annoys the hell out of me that lewis fans go on about he beat Tyson what bull**** , I think lewis resume is very poor , and an old holyfield won there second fight , and getting ktfo by 2 journymen heavyweights says it all.
            Ross Purrity was a journeyman. Rahman and Mccall were not journeymen. Rahman fought for a title against WLAD 7 FULL YEARS after Lewis knocked him out.


            Think about that. RAHMAN 'THE JOURNEYMAN' fought Wladimir 7 years after Lewis knocked him out. So if Rahman is a 'journeyman' what does that make this HW Era?

            Mccall also had the greatest HW Chin of all times. Or close to it.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JasonBoxing View Post
              Lewis himself was heading towards shot by that time. He wasn't Tyson shot, but he was nowhere near prime.Lewis's decline was actually quite obvious to any true heavyweight fan. Lennox's prime was taken from him by that one Rahman thunder right. He never recovered from that. He only managed to beat Rahman in the rematch in such great fashion due to his heart and his willpower. Even past prime but well prepared Lewis destroys any version of Rahman. Against Tyson he was unable to string together any combinations and his hand speed has rapidly faded. He wasn't even able to land his usual upper cut/right hand combo. The same combos he landed on Prime Mercer time and time again.

              Complete and utter bull**** spoken from a Lummox fan. His fan's use that excuse to pass over the fact that he got KTFO by a bodybuilder in his prime. Lummox's best form was in the 2000's. Lummox's fighting style and build were far more conducive to age than a small pressure fighter like Tyson(who ironically fought at an older age with more fights). He turned pro late and only had 44 total fights. We NEVER saw a shot(or anything close to that) Lummox in the ring.

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              • #17
                As for Lewis's resume?

                He didn't have numerous PRIME ATG wins like Ali did, but he had a huge amount of good/very good wins that added up.

                Gary Mason.Frank Bruno,Tommy Morrison, Razer Ruddock, David Tua, and Andrew Golota were all big massive punchers that tallys up to an impressive win total. Guys like Morrison and Ruddock were very good offensive fighters and Golota had real rare talent. Lewis handled them all.

                Mercer was a good win against a guy who definitely had elite level talent. Prime Mercer would have been easily the 2nd best fighter today behind Wlad. Prime Tucker would have been top 10 today.

                The version of Holyfield that Lewis beat(10-2 and got robbed) was still an elite level fighter and he declined rapidly afterwards. But the Holyfield who fought Lewis was definitely still World Class. Vitali was in his prime and despite doing well early, was fading late. Those are bona fide legit elite level wins.


                What's interesting also is that you can make a case that if you were to combine the top 14punchers Ali and Lewis beat? A case could be made that 11 of them belonged to Lewis.


                Ali:
                Foreman
                Shavers
                Liston

                Lewis
                (In no specific order)
                Tua/Vitali/Bruno/Ruddock/Tyson/Morrison/Mason/Mercer/Rahman/Golota/Briggs

                I never seen a boxer(any weight class) that took care of as many lethal punchers as Lewis did. It's actually a credit to him that he only got knocked out twice.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JasonBoxing View Post
                  Ross Purrity was a journeyman. Rahman and Mccall were not journeymen. Rahman fought for a title against WLAD 7 FULL YEARS after Lewis knocked him out.


                  Think about that. RAHMAN 'THE JOURNEYMAN' fought Wladimir 7 years after Lewis knocked him out. So if Rahman is a 'journeyman' what does that make this HW Era?

                  Mccall also had the greatest HW Chin of all times. Or close to it.
                  McCall and Rahman were ****. Stop trying to make them out to be good fighters. McCall was on crack and already had 5 career losses, Rahman was unranked and a 20-1 underdog.

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                  • #19
                    LEWIS LAND: a fat 36 year old journeyman who hadn't fought in a year was an "elite level talent"

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                    • #20
                      I find it hilarious how Lummox fans love to degrade Grabimir who is essentially a carbon copy of Lummox.

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